On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Will Stephenson
Regarding KPersonalizer, we haven't had time to port it yet - we had to put our resources into basic desktop functionality from KDE 3 missing in KDE 4 like a working system tray, a taskbar that stacks items, icons on the desktop etc. It's still on the roadmap but hasn't made it for 11.1.
And I thank you guys for adding that. But, did no one really think that there would not be people asking to turn off the new features? I missed out on being in the community for a year due to problems in my life. If I had been around I would have tried to express my point of view earlier.
I don't know what more we can do about the users who don't participate in the community. They benefit from online updates and will get 4.1.3 when they update to 11.1 - I think that's all we can do for them.
Yes, but consider how many have been turned off from openSUSE because they tried KDE4 because it was more promiently offered? These peopl just decided they liked it or didn't, and the ones who didn't moved on. We lost them is one way you can say it. Sure, we gained some who like KDE4, but are we looking to get more interested, or are we trying to have a static of loss/gain? To be honest, the KDE4 in 11.0 as is was not up to the standards that I and many others expected from openSUSE. I just happen to be one of the few who have said that. Sure, KDE4 has improved with the build service and 11.1, but IMO, it was not ready for prime-time. Fedora released 9 with only KDE4, and I saw a lot of people move away from Fedora because their KDE4 was nowhere near as good as ours. I've repeatedly said that I'm not against KDE4. I just can't honestly say that I can use it as productively as KDE3 and I can't recommend it as it is even now. I will see how 11.1 final goes, but I have yet to see a compelling reason to use it, especially on older hardware. That's just my opinion. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org