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Re: [opensuse] KDE3-4 did teams change?
- From: "Larry Stotler" <larrystotler@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:11:20 -0500
- Message-id: <9bb996600812060711g395d59a1m5c90e6a072f7aef5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Will Stephenson <wstephenson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
And I thank you guys for adding that. But, did no one really think
that there would not be people asking to turn off the new features? I
missed out on being in the community for a year due to problems in my
life. If I had been around I would have tried to express my point of
view earlier.
Yes, but consider how many have been turned off from openSUSE because
they tried KDE4 because it was more promiently offered? These peopl
just decided they liked it or didn't, and the ones who didn't moved
on. We lost them is one way you can say it. Sure, we gained some who
like KDE4, but are we looking to get more interested, or are we trying
to have a static of loss/gain?
To be honest, the KDE4 in 11.0 as is was not up to the standards that
I and many others expected from openSUSE. I just happen to be one of
the few who have said that. Sure, KDE4 has improved with the build
service and 11.1, but IMO, it was not ready for prime-time.
Fedora released 9 with only KDE4, and I saw a lot of people move away
from Fedora because their KDE4 was nowhere near as good as ours.
I've repeatedly said that I'm not against KDE4. I just can't honestly
say that I can use it as productively as KDE3 and I can't recommend it
as it is even now. I will see how 11.1 final goes, but I have yet to
see a compelling reason to use it, especially on older hardware.
That's just my opinion.
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Regarding KPersonalizer, we haven't had time to port it yet - we had to put
our resources into basic desktop functionality from KDE 3 missing in KDE 4
like a working system tray, a taskbar that stacks items, icons on the desktop
etc. It's still on the roadmap but hasn't made it for 11.1.
And I thank you guys for adding that. But, did no one really think
that there would not be people asking to turn off the new features? I
missed out on being in the community for a year due to problems in my
life. If I had been around I would have tried to express my point of
view earlier.
I don't know what more we can do about the users who don't participate in the
community. They benefit from online updates and will get 4.1.3 when they
update to 11.1 - I think that's all we can do for them.
Yes, but consider how many have been turned off from openSUSE because
they tried KDE4 because it was more promiently offered? These peopl
just decided they liked it or didn't, and the ones who didn't moved
on. We lost them is one way you can say it. Sure, we gained some who
like KDE4, but are we looking to get more interested, or are we trying
to have a static of loss/gain?
To be honest, the KDE4 in 11.0 as is was not up to the standards that
I and many others expected from openSUSE. I just happen to be one of
the few who have said that. Sure, KDE4 has improved with the build
service and 11.1, but IMO, it was not ready for prime-time.
Fedora released 9 with only KDE4, and I saw a lot of people move away
from Fedora because their KDE4 was nowhere near as good as ours.
I've repeatedly said that I'm not against KDE4. I just can't honestly
say that I can use it as productively as KDE3 and I can't recommend it
as it is even now. I will see how 11.1 final goes, but I have yet to
see a compelling reason to use it, especially on older hardware.
That's just my opinion.
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