On Friday 05 December 2008 19:39:22 Larry Stotler wrote:
But that's what happens when I load KDE4. I get a desktop with a bunch of useless bling that works very different from KDE3. They say first impressions are the most important. Well, some users, who like bling, are probably happy. But a lot of the long time KDE3 users are unhappy because not only is KDE4 full of bling, it doesn't work the way we expect it to work. Then when we point these things out, we are called ranters. I personally don't have the time to go through all the existing bug reports to see if what I feel is missing has been reported. That's why a lot of us bring up these things here. I asked the KDE devs to include KPersonalizer at startup of KDE4 to turn off the bling, but the notes from the meeting stated that it hadn't been ported. However, no mention of whether that was going to happen or not was in the meeting. So, am I supposed to assume that the devs, who are now aware of this, are going to see about taking care of it or do I need to open a bugreport? Communication, which seems to be lacking in some cases.
Regarding KPersonalizer, we haven't had time to port it yet - we had to put our resources into basic desktop functionality from KDE 3 missing in KDE 4 like a working system tray, a taskbar that stacks items, icons on the desktop etc. It's still on the roadmap but hasn't made it for 11.1.
And that's because myself and others make it known that we felt it was necessary. And we (at least I) appreciate that. However, what a lot of you guys seem to miss out is that a lot of openSUSE users don't hang out on these lists and they don't make their thought available. Also, a lot of 11.0 users are probably still using KDE4.04 because they don't KNOW that you can add in the build service and update it. So, there's a disconnect not with those of us here, but for those who aren't here. Lack of communication.
I don't know what more we can do about the users who don't participate in the community. They benefit from online updates and will get 4.1.3 when they update to 11.1 - I think that's all we can do for them. Will -- Will Stephenson Desktop Engineer KDE Team -- Will Stephenson Desktop Engineer KDE Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org