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Re: [opensuse] KDE3-4 did teams change?
  • From: "John Andersen" <jsamyth@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:45:56 -0800
  • Message-id: <60fb01490812041445v24593083w362289b791e6d85a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 12/4/08, Larry Stotler <larrystotler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Herbert Graeber <hgraeber@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Have a look on KDE4 in openSUSE 11.1 and then think why the openSUSE KDE
team
has backported so many features from KDE 4.2, despite the warnings from so
prominent KDE developers like Aaron Seigo.
Stop moaning. Instead praise the openSUSE KDE team for their hard work to
satisfy the openSUSE KDE users.

I suggested pushing back the release so they could just include 4.2,
but that was shot down.

Well that might have been a good Idea if 4.2 was going to include any
new functionality.

But I post this using Kong on Version 4.1.80 (KDE 4.1.80 (KDE 4.2 Beta1))
which is the first beta of 4.2 (Kubuntu) and I gotta say they fixed up
some of the
bugs in the Bling, but not much of the missing functionality has returned.

You are still left with a single wall paper on all screens.

The new (old) Desktop folder view choice can be made system wide, but
not on individual desktops. And if you make that choice once, you are
never offered it again.

Don't you ever dare logo off with widgets unlocked, because you never know where
they will be re-arranged upon your next visit. I can't count how many
times I've
readjusted my panel only to have it scrambled after a logoff.

You still can't just create a desktop icon-oid, for your favorite
application without first finding it
in the normal menus or adding it there prior to asking for a plasmoid.
But hold on, if you use the disappearing option to have the desktop
be folder, and change your mind, you can't even add a launcher to the
deskop at all.

(This whole plasmoid thing is a monumental boondoggle. Distinctions
are made between icons and plasmoids with no clear difference other
than that the functionality of the desktop is diminished. But boy is
it ever cute that you can tilt your plasmoids. How DID we survive with
out that?

Cursors don't disappear as you move them off of a windows border any
more. That seems fixed. But the I-bar cursors are used in Kong when an
internal scroll bar (such as the Gmail compose window) instead of the
proper cursor.

Kong file manager mode is STILL more functional and less cluttered than Dolphin.
And Dolphin still aborts when you use the plus signs preceding a
smb:// entry to expand it.
(when expandable folder view is used).

Who ran off with my Kedit?
Where is my kssh launcher?

I'm not convinced holding off till 4.2 would have been anywhere near
long enough. I'm now thinking 4.4 might be ok.

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