thanks to all of you who contributed to this issue. i have learned a lot about linux during this thread to help me when 11.1 comes out. how did i solve the issue? after several failures to get x started, i decided to re-purpose the machine. i installed (forgive me) windows xp home on the box and i've decided to give it to a friend of mine for christmas. he's a nice gentleman who needs a computer. he's a songwriter and a poet. and he needs something to write on and store his work. so i will be patient. i look forward to 11.1 and the fixes that, i hope, will allow me a more satisfying experience with opensuse. i'm not opposed to learning something new and getting my hands dirty. so i wait for 11.1 and give it another shot another day. cheers, dwain p.s. thanks again for all the tremendous input and effort. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org