Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (2114 mails)

[Per Jessen <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Anton Aylward wrote:

> I was shocked when I first saw some of the heavy processing going on,
> not least of all putting the syslog records in a relational database
> so that all manner of analysis can be done, time trends and such like,
> that simply isn't possible with reports by email.

Like I said - syslog is for audit trails and post-mortem analysis -
email and SNMP are more for the real-time alert.

[big snip about email - I didn't quite get your point] 

> System control rather than simply passive monitoring is another
> matter. network components such as routers and switches report by
> syslog and SNMP, but syslog is a reporting mechanism not a controlling
> mechanism. If you want to expand this to control then pleas change the
> subject line.  At present it says "monitor".

No, this is not about controlling.  

> > Which distro were you running? Maybe it was a better option for you.
>
> SunOS back when, Solaris; UNIX V6 and V7 when I was a kernel hacker,
> SYSIII, SYSV Berkeley BSD 2.4 though 2.8 and 4.0 though 4.1; AIX from
> the beginning through to current; man versions of HP/UX; DG/UX; many
> now defunct versions of microprocessor "unix" not least of all SCO's
> XENIX, including the ports of it by HCR to various platforms.  I even
> had one spell using Zeus on a machine running the Zilog Z-8001
> processor though I thought the Onyx version on their box much more
> fun.  I *like* AIX but can't afford it it home.  I've run a number of
> versions of Linux over the last decade and half, but have little
> interest in switching back and forth.

Well, I have difficulty in believing that Solaris, AIX and HPUX all
manage perfectly well without postfix/sendmail/exim/<anyMTA>, but I
don't have enough experience with those to contradict you. Still, why
don't you run openSolaris if that does what you want?

> > I'm curious though, how did you manage to receive the various systems
> > alerts and messages without a local MTA?  Did you write your
> > own /usr/sbin/sendmail to drop the text directly into the filesystem?
>
> You are failing to differentiate between how I have configured systems
> and how I thing a system for a variety of different contexts should be
> allowed to be configured to suit the needs of that context. 

You stated very clearly that "before I installed openSUSE none of my
non-mail hub machines and in the specific not my laptop or desk
workstation ran Postfix, exim, sendmail or other such MTA.".  I'm only
asking how you did it, that's all.  


/Per


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/Per Jessen, Zürich

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