Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (2162 mails)

["Brian K. White" <brian@xxxxxxxxx>]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Randall R Schulz" <rschulz@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <opensuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Replying to threads (was: Re: OT: bash F1)


> On Monday 18 August 2008 07:56, Brian K. White wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Randall R Schulz" <rschulz@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <opensuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: [opensuse] Replying to threads (was: Re: OT: bash F1)
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > Yeah, and Mr. White uses Outlook, the worst abomination ever
> > > perpertrated by that company in Redmond.
> >
> > No I don't.
>
> The headers in your posts say otherwise:

No they don't. How many times & ways must you prove yourself dense?


> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350

This is amazing. You collected the info, copied & pasted it,
And still don't know what it says?
Outlook != Outlook Express.
One is not a subset or superset of the other except by definitions
so loose as to be meaningless.
If you didn't know this, then you don't know enough about the
programs to have any foundation for commenting on their
quality or lack of same. That means you're just another mouth
repeating what you hear the smart-sounding people say.

> > ...
> >
> > But, what's it to you?
>
> Outlook and Outlook Express don't conform to the standards and this
> failure, among many problems, leads people to believe that there is no
> difference between replying to a thread and replying to a specific
> post.

Who's confused? I'm not the one who can't read.

I was not the slightest bit confused about what I was douing when I posted.
Forgetting to clean up the attributions _perfectly_ was not confusion
but simple sloppiness. Well you got me there! ooooh! And it still had
nothing to do with the silly mail client being used at the time.
Besides I thought there was no such thing as replying to a thread?
Make up your mind.
Also-also, what are these standards you speak of?
It adheres perfectly with the "standards". (by which I at least mean
smtp). Perhaps you confuse obligation with convention?
Holy cow you sure packed a lot of gibberish into that one little sentence.

> > .... And my failure to feel chastised over it, which I'm sure is the
> > real problem, ...
>
> Part of ordinary social grace is to admit when you've done something
> wrong rather than defend your mistake as something that's perfectly OK.

I didn't defend the mistake. There was a teeny actual mistake in there
and it got the teeny apology it deserved. (twice, now.) You want more,
that's you're problem. And _that's_ all this thread is about any more.
You want more apology than you have any right to and you're not going
to get it, and apparently haven't come to grips with this fact of life.
I am not going to help with this problem you are having in the way
that you want.

Go join a Martha Stewart list if you value social grace more than
the work at hand here.
The way I read the charter, this place is here for receiving and dispensing
help, and otherwise discussing various aspects of, linux in general and
opensuse in particular. Well that's what that post was  doing.

It was reasonable to bring the slip to my attention. It was not reasonable
to actually care about it much even initially. To still care about it by now
borders on the obsurd or the pathetic.

If it was an actual breach of standards or expressed policy or convention
that'd be one thing. Like, say top-posting, posting in html, not quoting
enough or at all, quoting too much, etc.. All things I'll perfectly freely
admit to having done on occasion btw.

But, when you get right down to it, that post actually did none of those
things. And that's why this thread is probably going to continue untill
you get tired of it. I'm not really stressed or upset or even especially
annoyed by your attempts to somehow make some sort of case.
So I'm fine with pointing out the flaws in your arguments as long
as you want to keep trying to come up with them. And who knows you may
make a valid point after all and then I'll have expanded my horizons a
little by having something pointed out to me that I hadn't thought of
before. I'll then thank you for helping me grow as a person. It could
happen. I'm merely firm in my sense of reason, not prejudiced.

Do you _really_ suppose there is any _slight_ gain to be had by continuing
this thread? How's this for social grace: Let's just say I am actually
in the wrong, but I'm such a jerk I'll never admit it. Is there any slight
doubt in your mind by now what my stance is on this topic? What does the
socially graceful person do when confronted with such a situation?

bkw

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