On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 1:11 PM,
I've been using KDE 4.0.85 here for 5 days, yet cannot see what all this fuss is about. You want a fork for what reason? Because it has bugs? Because it looks different? Because of plasma?
Basically because of the entire look and feel besides the slow down due to the unwanted(at least on my part) effects. But I have to say that the color palette definately doesn't agree with anything I care for. It's look and feel is very Vista like, and that's enough of a killer for me.
KDE4 works for most purposes at the moment, I see no reason to waste resources supporting 3 desktops instead of 2.
Considering that openSUSE also supports Xfce now, and I think there was another one installed as well, that's not really a big deal.
Could you please explain how you perceive this difference? In what way is KDE3 functionally different to KDE4?
I'm not going to go over what a lot of people have posted. Basically, the fact that you can't do everything that KDE3 does is bad enough. KDE4 isn't ready for prime time(at least compared to the KDE3 standard that it WILL be compared to) and the fact that the LiveCD is Only available with KDE4 and not KDE3 says a lot about where the devs are wanting to go.
Are you talking about opensuse-updater? Are you implying that the main difference between KDE3 and KDE4 is the appearance?
In many ways, yes. The KDE4 programs have a radically different look. Even the games, like Magghong, look too glitzy. I can't give a lot of comparisions because I don't have my KDE4 system in front of me, and I removed most of the KDE4 versions from this one.
You can use KDE4 without the desktop effects and it is faster than KDE3 at many things.
That's the claim. I will have to look into that. But, if I have to do a bunch of work to configure KDE4 to work like KDE3, doesn't that basically defeat the purpose of using KDE4?
Could you specify what functionality that was added in KDE4 consists "bloat"? If you don't like desktop effects, don't use them, it's simple. KDE4 is reported to be faster than KDE3 in most aspects, so it should run better on old machines.
Again, see above. It should be, but it wasn't. At least as a stock system. After installing SuSE 7.3(KDE2) & 8.1(KDE3) recently, I can vouch for the fact that there wasn't that much of a difference in the look and feel as compared to KDE3 to KDE4. (Of course, when I tried to update 7.3 to 8.1, it failed, which is probably why I have always re-installed a new version instead of upgrading.) As far as I am concerned, I will be pushing to make sure that KDE3 is included in 11.1 and later if I find that KDE4 doesn't offer a compelling upgrade. openSUSE v10.1 was definately not a compelling upgrade(broken packager, broken PPC support). v10.2 was better, but v10.3 wasn't. v11.0 is a definate improvement in many ways. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org