Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (2315 mails)

["Andrew Joakimsen" <joakimsen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yep. Playing "WORKSFORME" ^ "REOPEN" hell right now lets see how far this goes.

I guess its marginally better than outright saying they won't fix bugs.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Brian K. White <brian@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yes I tested myself and also verified.
> Install via vnc is definitely broken.
>
> I hope someone bugzilla'd it. I haven't. Mostly because I have little use for 
> / see little point in the vnc option anyways other than slick eye candy for 
> sales people to show off to the easily impressed by shiny objects.
>
> Text is a zillion times faster and works via serial console or ssh and the 
> client side can be anything like even a text only console of some unix/linux 
> box or any kind of xterm or telnet/ssh client anywhere. As common as vnc 
> clients are, they do still require more than telnet/ssh. I can perform an ssh 
> or srial console install from my laptop while only connected to the net via 
> my cell phone. That would be quite painful via vnc and I doubt I would even 
> actually manage to complete the install without the connection breaking and 
> losing everything.  And in the case of ssh you can have multiple shells open 
> into the install system to do manual things behind the scenes like set up 
> drives and clone one drives partitioning to 11 other drives in a flash 
> non-interactively with sfdisk instead of all that clicking in the gui 
> partitioner (when setting up software raid on a lot of drives) , manipulating 
> /etc/hosts to force a preconfigured install source url to resolve to some 
> local ip just temporarily, manually assemble unsupported raid arrangements 
> like raid10, etc...
>
> Now if they want to make a remote install method that looks pretty, make it 
> web based.
> Not the java vnc client. That will have all the same speed and client 
> requirements problems.
> I mean cgis and efficient html style sheets such that most of the graphics 
> get actually transferred once and then most come out of browser cache the 
> rest of the session, and every other available technique to minimize net 
> traffic and maximize client compatibility (don't require flash and don't use 
> java too heavily, etc...)  I should be able to do it from Blazer on Palm, or 
> dillo or arachne or maybe even lynx though I'm not sure why I wouldn't just 
> use ssh in that case.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Joakimsen" <joakimsen@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Brian K. White" <brian@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <opensuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [opensuse] VNC Remote Install on 11.0 Broken
>
>
> > I tried vnc=1 vncpassword=caballo1 and still it does the same thing,
> > so that is not the problem.
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Brian K. White <brian@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Joakimsen" <joakimsen@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "Ciro Iriarte" <cyruspy@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Cc: "opensuse" <opensuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:29 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [opensuse] VNC Remote Install on 11.0 Broken
> > >
> > >
> > > > I did not use any parameter except adding "vnc=1" but it did prompt
> > > > immediately for a password.
> > > >
> > > > There is no error on the screen until AFTER I connect, enter the
> > > > password, the screen shows up for 1/2 second and then goes away and
> > > > then the console on the local PC displays the error.
> > >
> > > You need at minimum:  vnc=1 vncpassword=something
> > >
> > > Where did you learn about vnc=1 and it didn't also show you vncpassword=foo
> > > ?
> > >
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