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Re: [opensuse] VNC Remote Install on 11.0 Broken
- From: "Brian K. White" <brian@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:58:45 -0400
- Message-id: <01b601c8d7b6$4739f720$6b00000a@venti>
Yes I tested myself and also verified.
Install via vnc is definitely broken.
I hope someone bugzilla'd it. I haven't. Mostly because I have little use for /
see little point in the vnc option anyways other than slick eye candy for sales
people to show off to the easily impressed by shiny objects.
Text is a zillion times faster and works via serial console or ssh and the
client side can be anything like even a text only console of some unix/linux
box or any kind of xterm or telnet/ssh client anywhere. As common as vnc
clients are, they do still require more than telnet/ssh. I can perform an ssh
or srial console install from my laptop while only connected to the net via my
cell phone. That would be quite painful via vnc and I doubt I would even
actually manage to complete the install without the connection breaking and
losing everything. And in the case of ssh you can have multiple shells open
into the install system to do manual things behind the scenes like set up
drives and clone one drives partitioning to 11 other drives in a flash
non-interactively with sfdisk instead of all that clicking in the gui
partitioner (when setting up software raid on a lot of drives) , manipulating
/etc/hosts to force a preconfigured install source url to resolve to some local
ip just temporarily, manually assemble unsupported raid arrangements like
raid10, etc...
Now if they want to make a remote install method that looks pretty, make it web
based.
Not the java vnc client. That will have all the same speed and client
requirements problems.
I mean cgis and efficient html style sheets such that most of the graphics get
actually transferred once and then most come out of browser cache the rest of
the session, and every other available technique to minimize net traffic and
maximize client compatibility (don't require flash and don't use java too
heavily, etc...) I should be able to do it from Blazer on Palm, or dillo or
arachne or maybe even lynx though I'm not sure why I wouldn't just use ssh in
that case.
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From: "Andrew Joakimsen" <joakimsen@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Brian K. White" <brian@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <opensuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [opensuse] VNC Remote Install on 11.0 Broken
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Install via vnc is definitely broken.
I hope someone bugzilla'd it. I haven't. Mostly because I have little use for /
see little point in the vnc option anyways other than slick eye candy for sales
people to show off to the easily impressed by shiny objects.
Text is a zillion times faster and works via serial console or ssh and the
client side can be anything like even a text only console of some unix/linux
box or any kind of xterm or telnet/ssh client anywhere. As common as vnc
clients are, they do still require more than telnet/ssh. I can perform an ssh
or srial console install from my laptop while only connected to the net via my
cell phone. That would be quite painful via vnc and I doubt I would even
actually manage to complete the install without the connection breaking and
losing everything. And in the case of ssh you can have multiple shells open
into the install system to do manual things behind the scenes like set up
drives and clone one drives partitioning to 11 other drives in a flash
non-interactively with sfdisk instead of all that clicking in the gui
partitioner (when setting up software raid on a lot of drives) , manipulating
/etc/hosts to force a preconfigured install source url to resolve to some local
ip just temporarily, manually assemble unsupported raid arrangements like
raid10, etc...
Now if they want to make a remote install method that looks pretty, make it web
based.
Not the java vnc client. That will have all the same speed and client
requirements problems.
I mean cgis and efficient html style sheets such that most of the graphics get
actually transferred once and then most come out of browser cache the rest of
the session, and every other available technique to minimize net traffic and
maximize client compatibility (don't require flash and don't use java too
heavily, etc...) I should be able to do it from Blazer on Palm, or dillo or
arachne or maybe even lynx though I'm not sure why I wouldn't just use ssh in
that case.
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Brian K. White brian@xxxxxxxxx http://www.myspace.com/KEYofR
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Joakimsen" <joakimsen@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Brian K. White" <brian@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <opensuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [opensuse] VNC Remote Install on 11.0 Broken
I tried vnc=1 vncpassword=caballo1 and still it does the same thing,--
so that is not the problem.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Brian K. White <brian@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Joakimsen" <joakimsen@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Ciro Iriarte" <cyruspy@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "opensuse" <opensuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: [opensuse] VNC Remote Install on 11.0 Broken
I did not use any parameter except adding "vnc=1" but it did prompt
immediately for a password.
There is no error on the screen until AFTER I connect, enter the
password, the screen shows up for 1/2 second and then goes away and
then the console on the local PC displays the error.
You need at minimum: vnc=1 vncpassword=something
Where did you learn about vnc=1 and it didn't also show you vncpassword=foo
?
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