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Re: [opensuse] 11.0 KDE 4 {first impressions}
  • From: Pete Connolly <pete.connolly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:18:16 +0100
  • Message-id: <485EA578.3000300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
John Andersen wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Anders Johansson <ajh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Several statements collected together here:

Well, which core functionality are you missing then? I'm using KDE4 and I
haven't found anything crucial missing.

But that can hardly be called a core desktop functionality. If you really need
it, KDE3 konsole is still around and can be used from the KDE4 desktop

KDE4 is not just a rewrite, it's also a cleanup,
and features that go unrequested may be ignored


A cleanup, starting from ground zero? Who gets to define what
"core desktop" features are? Why would thing used heavily and every
day be stripped out, and replaced with unproven things? (or nothing).

Why not just recompile everything making the minimal amount
of changes to get it to run in the new infrastructure? Why Gnome-ify
KDE?

Why toss out so much and wait for bitching to decide if you will add
it back in? (And then act so defensive when bitching arrives?)

Why hide Kong Filemanager mode so deep? What possible reason
would there be to rewrite Konsole?

Why is this discussion not on a KDE development list? The original complaint was that the wording on the installation regarding desktop choice was poor. It's now turned into a full KDE4 hate thread, yet opensuse 11.0 actually delivers a very complete, usable KDE4 (for some people's definition of complete and usable). Maybe this discussion needs to be moved somewhere relevant, since I don't see anything constructive coming out of the current discussions.

Cheers

Pete
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