Re: [opensuse] Does Google read my email?

John Andersen wrote:

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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John Andersen wrote:

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On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Daniel Bauer wrote:

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Google conctructs profiles about every gmail user, using the contents, but also any other data that can be derived from emails. You might not care about that because you have nothing to hide, but it can be that one day you want to buy a house, a life insurance, whatever - and you simply can't, because googles profile sold to that company says you're not the type of good customer they want...

CITATION NEEDED.

As far as I know, nobody has shown that google sells "profiles" of anyone. In fact if you look at their privacy statement they specifically say they dont. http://www.google.com/mail/help/privacy.html

"We do not sell, rent or otherwise share your personal information with any third parties except in the limited circumstances described in the Google Privacy Policy, such as when we believe we are required to do so by law."

Ah, and here's the rub, isn't it?

"...such as when we believe we are required by to do so by law." The great escape hatch.

Have 'they' defined "[we] believe [we are required]"? What's their definition of "believe"?

And, ".....to do so by law" -- whose 'law'? The 'law' in America, in Britain, in Sweden? Law in China?

Lets stick to comparing apples to apples here...

Ok, let's so that.

The assertion was made that google SELLs personal information. The do no such thing.

Please provide factual references to this otherwise unsubstantiated claim. Google provided the Chinese government with information of one if its users in order to be able to continue to operate in China. There was a heavy price attached to the non-compliance of the request by the Chinese government by not being able to operate in China. By providing the information Google sold this information to the Chinese government which allowed it to continue to operate in China.

This as nothing AT ALL to do with honoring a subpoena or a search warrant?

You were expecting them to barricade the door, break out the shotguns, and go to war to protect your data from the Government YOU elected?

Ce? I didn't help to elect any government in America or China. I don't live in America or China.

Their Lawyers opinion of the validity of the subpoena is the definition of "believe".

There is no such thing as being "required to sell information".

Ah yes, "Their Lawyers opinion.....". This is the "rub" I was referring to ealier. "We BELIEVE..". "Lawyers OPINION...". The backdoor way out. All simple goobly-dook to avoid spelling out what you will never do, and a simple way of covering your arse when you do decide to break your ethics and moral obligation. Anyway, John, this has now gone offtopic so I will end this discussion. Ciao. -- If you don't succeed you run the risk of failure. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org