-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 21:57:13 Washington Irving wrote:
G T Smith wrote:
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Basil Chupin wrote:
I do not think that sparking off a desktop religious war is terribly helpful at this point. (Especially, with some of the other fireworks going off around this issue).
If KDE4 is moving toward a 'user friendly' == 'dumbing down' path I am
You mean becoming part of the 21st century? The days of working in a little black box date back more than 30 years. While some enjoy entering mystical
My first contact with a GUI was with SunTools on SunOS in mid 1980s. A few years DOS based systems started acquiring a number of GUI and CUI windowing interfaces (remember GEM, Windows 2.0 etc ), Windows 3.x/OS 2 moved the goal posts somewhat.. (Even vaguely remember writing a CUI myself at some point)... current GUI is really a 20th Century technology... there is a need to innovate beyond current GUI constraints.. and I do not mean by adding more eye candy... There are things that current GUIs are useful for and things they are bloody useless at. It is looking at the MMI to present the interaction for the latter tasks in more comprehend-able and flexible manner which is more important (not the pretty pictures).
among those not interested. I used to choose KDE over Gnome mainly because Gnome tended to be rather counter intuitive to use and ugly to look at, but I always felt that KDE tried too hard at being a poor mans Windows clone, (and I was never a particular fan of the Post 3.x systems).
Having no alternative other than working proffessionally with windoze I just
You have my sympathy...
can't view kde as a poor relation. It isn't. It's a much richer working environment that also offers the same conveniences. A user can make use of these or just use it. It's also lead the way on occasions.
That is a matter of opinion and I have no real desire to get to involved in a desktop religious war... KDE is a Curates egg, 'good in parts' there are KDE based tools I regularly use and others I never touch in preference to other options... The main problem with the later GUIs is the very narrow and limited interaction framework, you either do it the way GUI writers say you do it or go through hoops to get it to do what you want to do, the way you want to do it. Not useful.. If KDE4 is going down this road I am not going to be making much use of it... Never was much of an enthusiast for the original MacOS environment for similar reasons... There was a lot of very innovative work in the Xerox labs on 3D interactive interfaces in the 80s and 90s which were intended to help people work more effectively, that never seems to have been more generally adopted... (I am still unconvinced that wobbly windows, revolving cubes, and see through windows improve peoples productivity)...
Gnome on the the other hand has a very windoze attitude to the users and an interesting user interface
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One thing I will say about kde4. For some reason the desktop looks even more beautiful. I have no idea why. Desktops are an art form.
Try out Enlightenment (16 or 17)....
It really shouldn't be forming part of a major release yet though. From the little bit I've seen it's going to get bad press before it's even ready for release.
John
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