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Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.3 install - oh dear (rant only)
- From: John <john_82@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 11:34:11 +0100
- Message-id: <200805211134.11821.john_82@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 21:57:13 Washington Irving wrote:
You mean becoming part of the 21st century? The days of working in a little
black box date back more than 30 years. While some enjoy entering mystical
incantations there many others don't. What's the point of not using a
graphical interface after all the little black box is still there if your mad
enough want it and use 70's technology. It isn't crippled a la dos either.
User friendly - dumbing down isn't the correct word. All facilities should be
available from the desktop. Maybe people who feel like that should search the
term "ludites". Many may well know what it means allready.
Having no alternative other than working proffessionally with windoze I just
can't view kde as a poor relation. It isn't. It's a much richer working
environment that also offers the same conveniences. A user can make use of
these or just use it. It's also lead the way on occasions.
Gnome on the the other hand has a very windoze attitude to the users and an
interesting user interface
One thing I will say about kde4. For some reason the desktop looks even more
beautiful. I have no idea why. Desktops are an art form.
It really shouldn't be forming part of a major release yet though. From the
little bit I've seen it's going to get bad press before it's even ready for
release.
John
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G T Smith wrote:
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Basil Chupin wrote:
I do not think that sparking off a desktop religious war is terribly
helpful at this point. (Especially, with some of the other fireworks
going off around this issue).
If KDE4 is moving toward a 'user friendly' == 'dumbing down' path I am
You mean becoming part of the 21st century? The days of working in a little
black box date back more than 30 years. While some enjoy entering mystical
incantations there many others don't. What's the point of not using a
graphical interface after all the little black box is still there if your mad
enough want it and use 70's technology. It isn't crippled a la dos either.
User friendly - dumbing down isn't the correct word. All facilities should be
available from the desktop. Maybe people who feel like that should search the
term "ludites". Many may well know what it means allready.
among those not interested. I used to choose KDE over Gnome mainly
because Gnome tended to be rather counter intuitive to use and ugly to
look at, but I always felt that KDE tried too hard at being a poor mans
Windows clone, (and I was never a particular fan of the Post 3.x
systems).
Having no alternative other than working proffessionally with windoze I just
can't view kde as a poor relation. It isn't. It's a much richer working
environment that also offers the same conveniences. A user can make use of
these or just use it. It's also lead the way on occasions.
Gnome on the the other hand has a very windoze attitude to the users and an
interesting user interface
KDE started out being based on the principles of CDE, which
is re-named HP-VUE. A major improvement over CDE, however, was
putting minimized processes in the task bar instead of on the
desktop like in CDE/HP-VUE.
One thing I will say about kde4. For some reason the desktop looks even more
beautiful. I have no idea why. Desktops are an art form.
It really shouldn't be forming part of a major release yet though. From the
little bit I've seen it's going to get bad press before it's even ready for
release.
John
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