Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (2268 mails)

["Rajko M." <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Saturday 10 May 2008 01:53:13 am Basil Chupin wrote:
> jdd sur free wrote:
> > Basil Chupin wrote:
> > > Now in 11.0 (B1 and B2) it is no longer recognised and there is no
> > > longer a driver for it. Why?
> > >
> > > Who to blame for this?
> >
> > may be it's for such things the 11 is "beta"
> >
> > report to bugzilla
> >
> > jdd
>
> Beta 2 (of v11.0) is NOT a beta of a totally new distribution but a
> continuation of an existing, tested, and proven line of a major and
> respected Linux distribution.
>
> Something which was working perfectly well should not be fouled up, and
> requiring to have bugzilla reports made about it.
>
> Latest version of an application/operating system/program are an
> IMPROVEMENT on what is already in place - and not a REGRESSION of what
> is already available and known to work.

I guess that one should be reminded that difference between openSUSE <version> 
could be or it is the same as between win9x - XP - Vista. The driver or 
program compatibility is not guaranteed. 

So, if something doesn't work with new kernel, cups, or whatever other base 
system, one has to report regression. Upstream changes in cups can brake some 
programs, with or without anyones fault, and when reported then there is 
chance to be repaired. 

> 'You' cannot hide forever behind the "but it is just a Beta version". It
> is an excuse not used anywhere that I am aware of - but please do
> educate me - except here when someone points out a flaw in openSUSE.
> (All getting to be quite pathetic really.)

Than you are not aware of much. 

Note that there is no place called 'openSUSE labs' with a lot of hardware and 
employees to test that hardware with new software. If you don't report 
problem than who will. 

I report things that are problematic on my computer and I bug developers as 
long as necessary, explaining what is problem, testing patches, reopening bug 
reports if I'm not happy with reasons why they are closed. They are just 
ordinary folk as you or me, they do their job the best way they can. They 
have good and bad days, in both mood and amount of work that has to be done. 

So far I know they have not much time to look on mail lists for bugs, there is 
enough in http://bugzilla.novell.com and rant here will not help much to see 
problem solved. 

-- 
Regards, Rajko
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands.
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