I have had several really bad days getting this machine up and running. Rough history is as follows. Any comments? Going on web searches many people seem to have had the same sort of problem. In my case things seem to be worse following a change to none raid with xp is on disk 1.with an additional ntfs partion on disk 0. Disks were fake raided which caused the installer to give grub something it couldn't cope with. All files were correctly installed. I unraided them and suse still insisted it was a raid disk. I deleted the device mapper partitioning from the set up. Got the black screen of death the 1st time I did it. 2nd time it accepted it but still got the same grub failure. Then used NT to rewrite the boot sectors and things got a bit better. The suggested installation seemed to get better each time I tried it. I eventually managed to get a suse install to look like I wanted it to. It made use of a pre existing swap partition that it had put there itself several installs ago. But does it boot - no. Will it dual boot no. It still insisted that the xp partition was on disk 0 even though I swapped over the C and D drive mappings. The suse boot screen now shows 2 windows installations! Maybe one of them works I haven't tried them yet. I'm getting there with bootmagic. I must have done at least 10 installs in total and it still isn't correct so I may have to manually install grub to tidy things up. Bootmagic wont boot xp either even though I've told it where it is. Same problem. The really bad thing about this is that the grub install comes very late in the process well after the point where all of the software is installed. A bit late in the day if there are going to be problems. It wastes a lot of time. All in all it leaves me thinking that the installers assume a windows user trying linux with one disc in the machine - not raided. And that they don't look at the drives in the right way or take sufficient notice of what the user wants to do. Also why ask me to define a /boot when I've defined /. Seem's quote " I'm bound to have problems if I don't " No wonder suse is going down in the rankings. Having used suse 9.?, 10.0 and now 10.3 it seems that this area is getting worse. 10.0 had no problems at all with intel raid and made it clear that it would pack of my existing installation into another directory. 10.3 did something different. Right at the end it noticed a home directory with my user name and changed the ownership for me. Fine in this case but what if it had been 10.0. I might just be installing because I've re arranging or updating my machine. I was but I could equally well be updating everything. John Out of interest a number of people on the web seem to think that ntldr is the way forwards. It just needs a little prog a la wubi to send things the right way. I've tried to use the same code but it seems to be hard wired. I could make use of the wubi actual grub install but don't expect to keep it. Wubi has no problems at all with disk mappings by the way. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org