Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (3562 mails)

["Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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The Tuesday 2008-02-19 at 09:50 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:

> At least for now YOU are in control, not the kernel devs.
>
> They have taken nothing away and the traditional IDE drivers are being
> very actively supported.  Suse has them in their kernels for 10.3
> (11.0 I don't know about).
>
> The kernel devs added a parallel development track a copy years ago,
> so now there are 2 drivers for the vast majority of PATA (IDE)
> controllers.  It is YOUR choice whether you use the traditional set or
> the new set, nobody else is making decisions for you.
>
> So if you don't like the new way, use the old one.  (As described in
> the release notes from day one.)
>
> Obviously, SUSE (Novell) had to make a choice of what the default
> driver set for 10.3 should be.  They choose the leading edge set.
> That is pretty consistent with the opensuse philosophy from what I've
> seen.  I for one am very happy to see them moving forward, and if I
> need extra partitions, I can add a boot flag, update my grub setup,
> and fstab entries.
>
> I really don't understand the gripping about 10.3 in this respect.  If
> suse ever drops the traditional drivers/ide support, that is the time
> to complain.  And those complaints should occur during the alpha/beta
> process, not 6 months after the product is released.

We are not complaining about 10.3 now. We did complain about 10.3 beta 
when it was the time: it is on record, if you want to check (bugzillas 
included). What we complain now is that the written intention is/was to 
remove the "traditional set" for 11.0


As for the new method being "leading edge"... en fin. Not in one respect. 
They could have devised a really new device node set and drivers, with 
neither the limitations of scsi nor ata. They choose compatibility with 
one set against the other set of device nodes.

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Cheers,
       Carlos E. R.

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