Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (3562 mails)

["Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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The Saturday 2008-02-16 at 13:14 -0700, Carlos F. Lange wrote:

> Anyone else getting annoyed by the periodic check forced in ext3
> partitions?
>
> I started using ext3 in my large /home partitions, as recommended by
> openSUSE (still using Reiser for my smaller RAID1 root partition,
> because of this strange bug:
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=350992 )
> and today I passed again the 60 days limit without checking ext3 and I
> had to wait 10 minutes for the 200GB partition to be checked.
>
> It is bad enough that we don't get any decent feedback in the splash
> screen ( https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=344271 ), which I
> can imagine is unsettling to many new users, who will have no clue
> about what is happening.
>
> What I really question is if these lengthy checks are really needed.

Yes, they are needed. Unfortunately.

What could be reported as a bug is the no feedback situation with the 
splash screen. I always disable the splash screen and boot in verbose 
mode.

> My Reiser partition was cleared with a simple journal check (isn't that
> what journaling systems are about?).

Yes... but it happens that that fast check doesn't catch all problems. 
Sometimes user complain of "funny" things happening on their reiserfs 
partition; when they force a reiserfsck they do discover they had 
undetected problems.

> Add to that the fact that hard
> disks are becoming bigger and these forced check times can mean one
> might need to wait 20 minutes or 1/2 hour to get access to the machine
> again? Obviously this will happen when you have to leave in 10 minutes
> and you are just about to print out that vital document and your foot
> hits the reset switch...

Perhaps a method could be devised to warn in advance that a disk check is 
getting near, and then do it at your convenience. Or when the time comes 
to have the possibility of saying "tomorrow, please".

I read somewhere that the kernel people had a power failure, and it forced 
an fsck of their filesystem, with all those things they have. It took 
hours, if I remember correctly. The comment was that a recovery from 
backup would have been faster.

- -- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E. R.

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