Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (3572 mails)

[Kai Ponte <kai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wednesday 13 February 2008 10:56:11 pm Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> > > Is the 11.0 Build going to default to this alpha-stage
> >  > pile, and give newbies (who don't know better) a totally
> >  > HORRIBLE impression of both Suse and Linux?
> >
> >  you're not a software developer are you?
>
> I'm a BETA tester, so he is correct. KDE4 works like Alpha version.

The comment was made to Aaron.  

11 is now an alpha version. It behaves exactly as I would expect and I see no 
reason to be out there bashing the developers for a product that hasn't even 
been released yet. 

Having been doing software development since '79 and professionally since '93, 
I know this is the path one takes. You put the version out there - call them 
alpha, beta, RCx, whatever - and test the crap out of them until you get 
something workable.

Hopefully, the Novell and SUSE devs will have it all worked out by the time 
RC1 comes around. At this time we're looking at an *Alpha* code that is 
expected to have bugs and other interaction issues. Even though KDE 4.0 is 
released, we've yet to see KDE 4.0 (final) in openSUSE 11.0 until these Alpha 
versions. There will be interaction issues and they may (or may not) be able 
to complete these by release time.   As oft stated, they'll make the decision 
as to go forward in a month or so.

I'll be the first to start a flamefest on an application that doesn't work the 
way it should (Zypper under 10.0 and Beagle for example) but there's no basis 
for making gripes about releasing buggy alpha software, since it is expected 
to be buggy.

If you (or Aaron) don't like how 11.0A2 works, then get yerselves on the 
Factory mailing lists 
(http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate/Mailinglists#Development_Lists) and start 
discussing there how you will help with the effort.
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