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Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 11
- From: Aaron Kulkis <akulkis00@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:51:10 -0500
- Message-id: <47ABB58E.9040905@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sloan wrote:
In actuality, MS Windows and other products suffer chronic security
problems because MS deliberately places backdoors in their products.
Ever notice how it sometimes takes MONTHS between when a windows
security problem is first reported, and when the problem is finally
admitted, right as they are releasing the patch?
That's because sometimes it takes that long to not only close
the backdoor which the crackers have discovered, but to ALSO
*CREATE* A NEW BACKDOOR so that they can continue monitoring
(and spying upon) the customer base.
Yep. See above.
Unix and Linux are written with the idea that multiple users
will be logged in at the same time, that all of them are
creative, but not infallible programmers, and the system
must be resiliant enough to prevent any user's faulty code
from crashing or destroying the whole system.
This is the basis of the *nix security model.
Windows is written with the idea that everybody is perfect,
and nothing bad or unexpected happens -- EVER.
This is why Windows doesn't really have a security model.
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Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
Aaron Kulkis:
Sloan wrote:Security by insignificance? I'd consider getting rid of that habit whenever it will be judged by interested parties that linux desktops now ranged in the significant amounts. Or your specific box gets to be judged significant.
Philippe Landau wrote:Same here.
I almost never click on a tinyurlI'm a linux user, I click on anything i feel like, without fear
as i don't know what it hides.
or viruses or spyware ;)
It always seems the "man in the street" assumes that microsoft suffers
from such chronic security woes only because of the overwhelming
popularity of ms windows, and doesn't consider that script kiddies are
just taking the low hanging fruit, the easy target.
In actuality, MS Windows and other products suffer chronic security
problems because MS deliberately places backdoors in their products.
Ever notice how it sometimes takes MONTHS between when a windows
security problem is first reported, and when the problem is finally
admitted, right as they are releasing the patch?
That's because sometimes it takes that long to not only close
the backdoor which the crackers have discovered, but to ALSO
*CREATE* A NEW BACKDOOR so that they can continue monitoring
(and spying upon) the customer base.
I've been using unix too long to be scared by the "viruses are coming,
be afraid" crowd. Sure, it's possible to exploit cartain scenarios on
linux and other unix-like systems, but by the nature of the design it's
not as straightforward and simple as infecting a peecee operating system.
Yep. See above.
Unix and Linux are written with the idea that multiple users
will be logged in at the same time, that all of them are
creative, but not infallible programmers, and the system
must be resiliant enough to prevent any user's faulty code
from crashing or destroying the whole system.
This is the basis of the *nix security model.
Windows is written with the idea that everybody is perfect,
and nothing bad or unexpected happens -- EVER.
This is why Windows doesn't really have a security model.
Prudence and reasonable security measures are appropriate for linux
users - blind paranoia is not.
Joe
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