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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?
- From: "Johannes Nohl" <johannes.nohl@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:50:36 +0100
- Message-id: <33d293f80801130850g52f37b5al1a2862fcc070c63@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Saying LTS I mean Long Term Support as ubuntu people do.
I know there's SEL but I'm asking for the open Suse.
extremely unlikely I say.. ;-)
So there's a conclusion.
On one hand there's "bleeding edge" software resulting on short
support terms. That's what I use and love on my personal desktop. I
have Suse on my radar since I ever heard of linux. All distributions
are a little bit different and (open)Suse was always my first choice.
On the other hand little space in argumentation is left for non
personal (really all except my desktop) use. So decision isn't made by
license but made pragmatically. I'm not a professional admin but
whenever I do something for somebody else I'm expected to give a
foreseeing advice. If I'm setting up a web-server or mail-server for
one of my projects there's no need for bleeding something. It is set
up and expected to run longer that one and a half year. That's in fact
the life cycle because you never meet the release date exactly.
That applies even for desktop computers I set up for e.g. my parents.
Of course it costs a lot to maintain. But I really feel that I - as an
opensuse user not a SLE costumer - am more than a development tester
for novell's business products. My service in return is to recommend
novell's business products if ever somebody would asks me. Although I
only have experience to opensuse I would argue that a great product
can't be bad if it's sold.
I did NOT understand ubuntu LTS as they would backport new software
(except if security patches are only for the new versions) as
mentioned. And they make difference between server and desktop. Really
long is only the server supported. Server software isn't updated to
often. When was the last bigger release from apache? From postfix?
From vsftp? From cyrus / courier / dovecot... Old samba still runs.
Ubuntu's first LTS release I took for marketing - they were pretty new
then. But now they release a second.
Virtualisation is nice but it isn't all. If I buy SLES I feel paying
90% of the costs for the hype virtualisation.
Please *give it a try*. Declare core packages of 10.4 (or will it be
11?) as LTS. Not GUI packages but kernel, daemons and related. Give it
it's own section on opensuse.org for community support. Provide a
script which is telling me what will be lts'ed. The few remaining I
can patch myself or maybe community does.
Finally I will have to unlaern another flavor of linux. Sad.
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