I'm still having issues with scheduling backups, and I resolved to get them settled today. I could sure use some advice. To summarize: I've gone through the motions to set up two kinds of backups using YaST. One is a full system backup that I'd like to schedule for once a week (and also run it manually after making significant system changes). The other is a backup of /etc and /home that I can schedule daily. I want to keep three generations of each, which is the default for the scheduler. I noticed that despite having defined automated parameters for the backups, and their showing up in the listing with the times I chose to run them, it simply doesn't happen. So I set out to learn more about crontab, hoping to figure out what's not right. According to one of my SuSE Linux books (of four, it's the only one with 'cron' in the index!), I need to do that with 'crontab -e', and edit the file in vi. Fine ... I can use vi well enough to do that. But if I start a console running with my user credentials, that command results in an error saying I don't have permission. Nothing in the book said I needed to be su in order to run it -- in fact, it implied just the opposite -- but just for grins, I started a root console and issued the same command. That worked, and vim started with an empty list. (Now that I think about it, I suppose that having set up the scheduled backups using YaST, it probably would require root to modify them, but it still puzzles me that I don't have permission to run crontab as a standard user and schedule my own user tasks.) So my questions: (1) SHOULD I be able to run crontab as a standard user? Do I need to add my user account to a specific group in order to be able to do that? (2) Should I forget about the scheduling that YaST supposedly provides, and just schedule the backups with tar using crontab from the root account? (I haven't used tar before -- hopefully there are options to tell it to keep three generations.) (3) Should a bug be reported for YaST (for not actually scheduling the backups), or is it not really expected to do that? Thanks for any help with this! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org