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Re: [opensuse] possible kernel panic on install attempts
- From: Felix Miata <mrmazda@xxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 09:26:53 -0500
- Message-id: <4752C0AD.9040609@xxxxxx>
On 2007/12/02 03:12 (GMT-0500) Clark P. Case apparently typed:
On mine, "disabling" the onboard in the BIOS is not necessary. By default, if
the BIOS finds an installed gfxcard, it makes the 845GL the secondary device.
Possibly the kernel panic is related to gfxcard prioritization, and/or a
defect in implementation of "disabling" in the 845GL chipset or motherboard
BIOS that newer kernels uncover.
Just another idea. The most I ever paid for a gfxcard was $60, but that was
10 or more years ago. I've since resolved to spending as little as possible
on video, having just taken delivery of 3 8 year old 4X AGP cards @ $8.50
each as example.
On further thought about installing Mandriva on my D845GLVA, I recall not
using the text installer when the GUI installer wouldn't work with the
onboard video, but instead sticking a really old PCI card in and using the
GUI installer. I may have used a Matrox Millenium, but probably used an
NVidia TNT2.
I wonder for further troubleshooting purposes if an antique PCI spec gfxcard
would also create the kernel panic? Yours are almost certainly newer than
v2.1, while mine are certainly not.
You did try both PCI slots, right? Is anything installed in the other? If so,
does behavior change if it's removed? Are you using the v2.01 BIOS?
FWIW, and this is probably no help, I've previously found with an Intel i810E
chipset motherboard that the PCI slots were not far short of useless. Only
certain cards would work in it, and then only if it was the only device
populating a PCI slot. Using more than one PCI slot would prevent POST
completion.
Since it worked with older kernels, filing a kernel bug might be the best
next thing to do. At least ask on the linux kernel mailing list.
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On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 11:40 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2007/12/01 01:30 (GMT-0500) Clark P. Case apparently typed:
...I have a system (and 3 other identical ones) that uses a Tyan S2098AGN
motherboard, 2.1GHZ Celeron w/512MB ram. I have been running openSuse
10.0 to 10.2 without issues.
...I have a Celeron 2.4G test box with the same chipset:
http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/va/index.htm
...I got SUSE
Factory v10.3 installed on it running 24 bit 2048x1536 in Sept. or Oct., and
Mandriva 2008. The latter's GUI installer wouldn't run on it, but it works
dandy after having used the text installer.
Thanks for your perspective. Unfortunately the core of my problem is not
with the integrated video. I offered that information as background. I
have been using the Intel Extreme graphics onboard and the Bios offers a
frame buffer of either 1MB or 8MB. I can install and used all Linux
distros with that setup without a problem. The problem lies in the fact
that when I disable the onboard and install any other cards, that I get
the kernel panic and it fails as later stated in the same paragraph.
On mine, "disabling" the onboard in the BIOS is not necessary. By default, if
the BIOS finds an installed gfxcard, it makes the 845GL the secondary device.
Possibly the kernel panic is related to gfxcard prioritization, and/or a
defect in implementation of "disabling" in the 845GL chipset or motherboard
BIOS that newer kernels uncover.
I feel strongly that this is a kernel issue and since i was able to get
to a desktop on the old 3.4 version of Knoppix's live cd, that the
problem exists in versions of the kernel greater that whatever version
is included on that live cd. I know that it's obscure, but had hoped
that others may have at least heard of a similar situation.
I suppose I will have to stick with some form of BSD if I am to utilize
the 4 128MB video cards I just $160 on but cannot used. It's not the
cards, it is something to do with the PCI capabilities on the
motherboard as it pertains to the Kernel but that is a guess from my
troubleshooting. Just frustrating...
Just another idea. The most I ever paid for a gfxcard was $60, but that was
10 or more years ago. I've since resolved to spending as little as possible
on video, having just taken delivery of 3 8 year old 4X AGP cards @ $8.50
each as example.
On further thought about installing Mandriva on my D845GLVA, I recall not
using the text installer when the GUI installer wouldn't work with the
onboard video, but instead sticking a really old PCI card in and using the
GUI installer. I may have used a Matrox Millenium, but probably used an
NVidia TNT2.
I wonder for further troubleshooting purposes if an antique PCI spec gfxcard
would also create the kernel panic? Yours are almost certainly newer than
v2.1, while mine are certainly not.
You did try both PCI slots, right? Is anything installed in the other? If so,
does behavior change if it's removed? Are you using the v2.01 BIOS?
FWIW, and this is probably no help, I've previously found with an Intel i810E
chipset motherboard that the PCI slots were not far short of useless. Only
certain cards would work in it, and then only if it was the only device
populating a PCI slot. Using more than one PCI slot would prevent POST
completion.
Since it worked with older kernels, filing a kernel bug might be the best
next thing to do. At least ask on the linux kernel mailing list.
--
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and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to
the government of any other." John Adams
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409
Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/
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