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Re: [opensuse] Evolution Netiquette Question
- From: Bryen <suseROCKS@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:30:16 -0500
- Message-id: <1192570216.24477.86.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 16:41 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
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> * Roger Oberholtzer <roger@xxxxxx> [10-16-07 15:55]:
> > If the list Netiquette for this list is to reply to the List, why is
> > the Reply-To field set to the original author?
> a search of the archives will give you a thousand explanations and
> much debate. Reading the help and, iirc, the welcome message will
> also give some explanation. Address is in the trailer on list posts.
Neither the Welcome message nor the auto-email from HELP give any
explanations of any kind. Only a list of commands to use for
subscription services. I, nor most people here, am not disputing the
"Reply-to" issue, but rather the confusing state of our efforts to
comply with the rules here.
Evolution does not make Ctrl+L (or "reply to list") very intuitive and
for some of us, it was confusing and cumbersome. I found it an
agonizing chore over the past week to manually switch addresses around
every time I wanted to reply. This affects the ease of community
participation. It was only today, thanks to Sunny, that I found out
about Ctrl+L. Actually, I've been using Evolution almost exclusively
for 3 years and only now found out about this function.
Another poster also mentioned that right-clicking a message in Evolution
used to offer the Reply to list option, and that has now been
eliminated, making that function even less intuitive.
So here's my suggestion. The Welcome or HELP message should include
some brief explanation for the top 3 most common email clients.
Evolution, KMail, and Thunderbird. Evolution is the default email
client on Suse and its perfectly natural that they would select that as
their preferred client.
I would also suggest that the trailer also include a link to the
Netiquette page. (Although, even there, there is no mention of proper
I've seen a few posts where people have been yelled at for doing the
Reply-All button. And I don't think its fair that they should be yelled
at. They weren't blatantly flouting the rules, they weren't being
careless, they weren't being blase about it. They were simply using the
default client on the very operating system this list is about. And
that client (Evolution) does not make "Reply to list" intuitive. Is
this fair? Is this a way to make us feel welcome?
We can go on and on with a discussion, but all of this would be nipped
in the bud if I had information right at the very start about Ctrl-L.
Let's remember that I started this email thread in an effort to comply
with the rules of this great house. And let's keep the focus of this
thread on making sure people learn about "Reply to List" and not get
sidetracked on the merits of the Reply list. That's been debated long
enough in this list and we don't need to bring it back up again.
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