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Re: [opensuse] Multiple accounts in KMail OR Integrating Thunderbird in Kontact
- From: Will Stephenson <wstephenson@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:29:08 +0200
- Message-id: <200710020929.08904.wstephenson@xxxxxxx>
On Tuesday 02 October 2007, Jonathan Ervine said:
> On Monday 01 October 2007 22:04:22 Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote:
> > Can I add multiple accounts exactly in the way it works in
> > Thunderbird (out of local folders folder, each one with separate
> > inbox, sent, trash and unsent folders). I saw that I can make
> > separate folders for accounts in the local folders folder and
> > associate accounts with it, but that's not what I want(sent, ... etc)
> >
> > I really don't want all of them to go to one folder, and I also want
> > to have Local Folders separately.
>
> I'm guessing you're setting up POP3 mail accounts? Are you able to use
> IMAP4 as a message retrieval protocol? This does bring in the folder
> structure of the remote mail system, whereas POP3 does not. If POP3 is
> the only protocol available to you, you can set up each identity to
> copy sent mail to separate locations within local folders. Not exactly
> what you want, but probably as close as you can manage with Kmail.
> Using POP3 makes your mail 'local' as it is downloading the mail
> (normally deleting from the server, although this can be specified not
> to do this also) to your client, whereas IMAP4 does not do this (by
> default; you can specify to cache the mail locally). I guess this is
> the reason why POP3 mail accounts automatically go to the local folders
> area.
Good explanation. You can set up a folder hierarchy within Local Folders with
multiple POP3 accounts delivering and storing in separate folders. Step by
step:
1) Set up a set of nested folders
eg
Local Folders
\ Sheep
\ Inbox
\ Sent
\ Drafts
\ ...
\ Pigs
\ Inbox
\ Sent
\ Drafts
\ ...
\ Trash
2) Create receiving POP accounts. In the account setup dialog set the
Destination folder for each account eg Local Folders/Sheep/Inbox.
3) Create an Identity for each POP account. Set the email address, and in the
Advanced tab, set the folders to use for that folders Sent, Drafts and
Templates (if needed). Doing this causes those folders to appear with the
appropriate icons in the Folder List (you can customise icons for any folder
in its Properties dialog).
The one thing you can't do with POP is have multiple Trash folders
automatically associated with a POP account. You can do this with IMAP
because the mail is always stored on the server - it takes time to fetch
mails to a local Trash folder, and is faster to move it on the server to that
account's Trash. There's no real need for it when the mail has already been
POPped to you. Having said that you can of course set up your own multiple
Trash folders and sort your Trash manually.
4) Turn on the Identity selector in the mail composer (View->Identity in the
composer window.
5) If you need to use multiple SMTP servers to send mail, create multiple
Sending accounts.
> Nope - TBird will not integrate into Kontact. Kmail is the mailer part
> of Kontact.
>
> I know Will, the Kontact/Kmail maintainer, monitors this list so maybe
> he'll jump in with further information.
Jon is right, TBird cannot be integrated into Kontact. The reason is that the
integration is more than just a simple combining of apps into panes of a
window with an app switcher - for an example, try dragging a mail from kmail
onto the To-do button. This creates a To-do out of the mail, which requires
some plumbing between the mail app and the calendar/todo app. Since TBird is
not written as a Kontact plugin using the KDE platform libs, it can't do
this.
You CAN however modify Kontact so it does not embed KMail, and use all the
other features of Kontact together with Thunderbird, and use the taskbar or
window manager to switch, but then you'd lose things like accessing the KDE
wide address book and the drag and drop fluff mentioned above.
If you go this way, use KControl->KDE Components->Component chooser to set the
mail client to TBird, so that eg mailto:/ links in KDE apps launch TBird ;
instead of KMail.
And i'm just the openSUSE maintainer - the vast majority of the work comes
from the community :).
HTH
Will
--
Desktop Engineer
KDE Team
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> On Monday 01 October 2007 22:04:22 Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote:
> > Can I add multiple accounts exactly in the way it works in
> > Thunderbird (out of local folders folder, each one with separate
> > inbox, sent, trash and unsent folders). I saw that I can make
> > separate folders for accounts in the local folders folder and
> > associate accounts with it, but that's not what I want(sent, ... etc)
> >
> > I really don't want all of them to go to one folder, and I also want
> > to have Local Folders separately.
>
> I'm guessing you're setting up POP3 mail accounts? Are you able to use
> IMAP4 as a message retrieval protocol? This does bring in the folder
> structure of the remote mail system, whereas POP3 does not. If POP3 is
> the only protocol available to you, you can set up each identity to
> copy sent mail to separate locations within local folders. Not exactly
> what you want, but probably as close as you can manage with Kmail.
> Using POP3 makes your mail 'local' as it is downloading the mail
> (normally deleting from the server, although this can be specified not
> to do this also) to your client, whereas IMAP4 does not do this (by
> default; you can specify to cache the mail locally). I guess this is
> the reason why POP3 mail accounts automatically go to the local folders
> area.
Good explanation. You can set up a folder hierarchy within Local Folders with
multiple POP3 accounts delivering and storing in separate folders. Step by
step:
1) Set up a set of nested folders
eg
Local Folders
\ Sheep
\ Inbox
\ Sent
\ Drafts
\ ...
\ Pigs
\ Inbox
\ Sent
\ Drafts
\ ...
\ Trash
2) Create receiving POP accounts. In the account setup dialog set the
Destination folder for each account eg Local Folders/Sheep/Inbox.
3) Create an Identity for each POP account. Set the email address, and in the
Advanced tab, set the folders to use for that folders Sent, Drafts and
Templates (if needed). Doing this causes those folders to appear with the
appropriate icons in the Folder List (you can customise icons for any folder
in its Properties dialog).
The one thing you can't do with POP is have multiple Trash folders
automatically associated with a POP account. You can do this with IMAP
because the mail is always stored on the server - it takes time to fetch
mails to a local Trash folder, and is faster to move it on the server to that
account's Trash. There's no real need for it when the mail has already been
POPped to you. Having said that you can of course set up your own multiple
Trash folders and sort your Trash manually.
4) Turn on the Identity selector in the mail composer (View->Identity in the
composer window.
5) If you need to use multiple SMTP servers to send mail, create multiple
Sending accounts.
> Nope - TBird will not integrate into Kontact. Kmail is the mailer part
> of Kontact.
>
> I know Will, the Kontact/Kmail maintainer, monitors this list so maybe
> he'll jump in with further information.
Jon is right, TBird cannot be integrated into Kontact. The reason is that the
integration is more than just a simple combining of apps into panes of a
window with an app switcher - for an example, try dragging a mail from kmail
onto the To-do button. This creates a To-do out of the mail, which requires
some plumbing between the mail app and the calendar/todo app. Since TBird is
not written as a Kontact plugin using the KDE platform libs, it can't do
this.
You CAN however modify Kontact so it does not embed KMail, and use all the
other features of Kontact together with Thunderbird, and use the taskbar or
window manager to switch, but then you'd lose things like accessing the KDE
wide address book and the drag and drop fluff mentioned above.
If you go this way, use KControl->KDE Components->Component chooser to set the
mail client to TBird, so that eg mailto:/ links in KDE apps launch TBird ;
instead of KMail.
And i'm just the openSUSE maintainer - the vast majority of the work comes
from the community :).
HTH
Will
--
Desktop Engineer
KDE Team
--
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