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Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
- From: Frank Fiene <ffiene@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:17:24 +0200
- Message-id: <200709110817.24275.ffiene@xxxxxxxx>
On Montag, 10. September 2007, David C. Rankin wrote:
> Daniel Bauer wrote:
> > On Monday 10 September 2007, Kai Ponte wrote:
> >> On Monday 10 September 2007 07:05, Frank Fiene wrote:
> >>> On Montag, 10. September 2007, bcoffey@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >>>> I am about to install openSuSE 10.2 on two new computers and see
> >>>> that the 10.2 default file system is ext3 and not Reiser. I'd
> >>>> like some advice as whether to accept the ext3 default or to go
> >>>> with Reiser as I have in the past.
> >>>
> >>> reiserfs is dead!
>
> Not entirely, Reiserfs 3x is finished and is not going to receive
> further development. Reiserfs 4x is not complete, *but* the jury is
> still out on whether, and how much, development is currently taking
> place.
You're right. not entirely but nearly entirely.
It receives no further development, also no bugfixes and performance
improvements for actual hardware.
Reiser4 (not Reiserfs 4) will never be completed! Hmmm maybe at the same
time when Hurd is released! ;-)
> see http://www.namesys.com/v4/v4.html and
> http://www.namesys.com/install_v4.html
>
> >> No, his wife is.
Who? The wife of reiserfs? Or does he mean Hans Reisers wife? Anyway ...
> > Maybe. Maybe not. Nobody (of us) knows.
> > Having good (well: a lot of) expertise in media I don't believe a
> > single word I read or hear in the news.
I don't care about if Hans Reisers wife is dead or not, but at the
moment he has some trouble and no one pushes Reiser4.
But we are talking about reiserfs, not Reiser4.
> > Regarding reiserfs:
Me too:
Reiserfs has performance problems with extended attributes and does not
scale on SMP-Machines because of global kernel locks. And we will see
more of this multicore system day by day.
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-09/msg00542.html
So my opinion: reiserfs is dead!
And i've never seen Reiser4 in a productive environment. But that is the
one we want to have, or maybe ZFS. For example, Fefes benchmarks shows
incredible performance with reiser4. But ... you know, it has not been
released yet and is unstable ...
Frank
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> Daniel Bauer wrote:
> > On Monday 10 September 2007, Kai Ponte wrote:
> >> On Monday 10 September 2007 07:05, Frank Fiene wrote:
> >>> On Montag, 10. September 2007, bcoffey@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >>>> I am about to install openSuSE 10.2 on two new computers and see
> >>>> that the 10.2 default file system is ext3 and not Reiser. I'd
> >>>> like some advice as whether to accept the ext3 default or to go
> >>>> with Reiser as I have in the past.
> >>>
> >>> reiserfs is dead!
>
> Not entirely, Reiserfs 3x is finished and is not going to receive
> further development. Reiserfs 4x is not complete, *but* the jury is
> still out on whether, and how much, development is currently taking
> place.
You're right. not entirely but nearly entirely.
It receives no further development, also no bugfixes and performance
improvements for actual hardware.
Reiser4 (not Reiserfs 4) will never be completed! Hmmm maybe at the same
time when Hurd is released! ;-)
> see http://www.namesys.com/v4/v4.html and
> http://www.namesys.com/install_v4.html
>
> >> No, his wife is.
Who? The wife of reiserfs? Or does he mean Hans Reisers wife? Anyway ...
> > Maybe. Maybe not. Nobody (of us) knows.
> > Having good (well: a lot of) expertise in media I don't believe a
> > single word I read or hear in the news.
I don't care about if Hans Reisers wife is dead or not, but at the
moment he has some trouble and no one pushes Reiser4.
But we are talking about reiserfs, not Reiser4.
> > Regarding reiserfs:
Me too:
Reiserfs has performance problems with extended attributes and does not
scale on SMP-Machines because of global kernel locks. And we will see
more of this multicore system day by day.
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-09/msg00542.html
So my opinion: reiserfs is dead!
And i've never seen Reiser4 in a productive environment. But that is the
one we want to have, or maybe ZFS. For example, Fefes benchmarks shows
incredible performance with reiser4. But ... you know, it has not been
released yet and is unstable ...
Frank
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