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Re: [opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
- From: Clayton <smaug42@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:51:32 +0200
- Message-id: <e29967880709100251t7ac40bc8s2004fd78cbc2393@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> We simply took the hard work done by Ricardo and Michael to create the
> community-developed Gtk frontend.
I do not ever want to fault the tremendous effort that took. On it's
own, I think it is a very professionally done application, and I hope
they continue working on improving Gnome and the toolset. The problem
is... well.. I've stated the problem already.
Making such a fundamental change in the workflow between Gnome and KDE
a major issue in so many areas - documentation, external 3rd party
support, actual toolset development (spreading limited resources now
across 2 toolsets instead of focusing on one.. this was the reason
given for selecting Tango icons for YAST in 10.3.. yet that same
reasoning doesn't apply here?).
> I see your point of support and also documentaiton is very similar issue.
> However, the value of difference, trying out a different approaches is very
> valuable.
Right... makes sense... but... not as a default. The YAST tool is
very important to openSUSE. Keeping it stable and predictable is so
very important for support. I appreciate the need for change... if we
didn't change, Linux development would stagnate.
I am working on ways I can formulate a message to opensuse-project
that does not diminish the effort put into the changes by Ricardo and
Michael, but instead clearly raises the issue that this change was not
a good one.. that doing a GTK themed YAST was a good idea, but
changing the workflow in one Window Manager and not the other is a bad
idea because of the far reaching and fundamental impact this has on
the rest of us who now have to support this new tool.
C.
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> community-developed Gtk frontend.
I do not ever want to fault the tremendous effort that took. On it's
own, I think it is a very professionally done application, and I hope
they continue working on improving Gnome and the toolset. The problem
is... well.. I've stated the problem already.
Making such a fundamental change in the workflow between Gnome and KDE
a major issue in so many areas - documentation, external 3rd party
support, actual toolset development (spreading limited resources now
across 2 toolsets instead of focusing on one.. this was the reason
given for selecting Tango icons for YAST in 10.3.. yet that same
reasoning doesn't apply here?).
> I see your point of support and also documentaiton is very similar issue.
> However, the value of difference, trying out a different approaches is very
> valuable.
Right... makes sense... but... not as a default. The YAST tool is
very important to openSUSE. Keeping it stable and predictable is so
very important for support. I appreciate the need for change... if we
didn't change, Linux development would stagnate.
I am working on ways I can formulate a message to opensuse-project
that does not diminish the effort put into the changes by Ricardo and
Michael, but instead clearly raises the issue that this change was not
a good one.. that doing a GTK themed YAST was a good idea, but
changing the workflow in one Window Manager and not the other is a bad
idea because of the far reaching and fundamental impact this has on
the rest of us who now have to support this new tool.
C.
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