Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (1950 mails)

[Magnus Boman <captain.magnus@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 10:28 +0200, Clayton wrote:
> > It's not like you are forced to use it you know.
> > sudo sed -i -e
> > 's:^WANTED_GUI="auto":WANTED_GUI="qt":' /etc/sysconfig/yast2
> > Voila, your problem is solved.
> 
> That makes as much sense as changing the YAST Tango icons to Crystal.
> Possible to do, but why am I munging the default install to "fix" poor
> decisions by the developers?
> 
> If we simply accept everything Novell/SUSE decides without raising our
> voices, then we will continue waltzing down the path without anyone
> raising their hands and saying "wait a sec".  We yelled loud and clear
> about the mess that was 10.1... and things were fixed in 10.2 and
> continue to be fixed in 10.3.  We could have simply disabled zen/zmd
> (which we all pretty much had to do anyway) and let Novell continue
> with the mess they created... but we didn't.
> 
> This is another mess.  It is the default.  Why should I have to tell
> all the people I support with openSUSE to go do some sysconfig change
> (either with YAST or from the CLI) after the install?  On my own
> machine... fine, I could do that, but I am NOT interested nor have the
> time to do it across multiple installs at multiple locations in
> different countries.
> 
> Up to 10.2 I could tell them... do the default install.  Make no
> changes... and I knew that regardless of if they chose KDE or Gnome,
> the toolset was the same when I needed to walk then through installing
> more software.  Now it's not.  Now I and everyone else that supports
> openSUSE in a multi-WM environment is faced with 2 different
> toolsets... when we had a common one.
> 
> C.

Clayton,

If you are serious about trying to influence what's default and not,
then I suggest you start a new thread in opensuse-project. In that
thread, you probably want to include constructive criticism and argue
your point in a manner that decision makers and developers a like will
read. The insults and bad mouthing that's been going on in this thread
will certainly not help your case.

Cheers,
Magnus

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