Hi, I have a machine that is cycled once a day. On the shutdown of the machine I notice that amavisd-new has to be given a KILL signal by the system after it fails to end after the system has given it a TERM signal. I am wondering whether my recent foray into Yast:System:System Services has something to do with it as I was having issues with ClamAv. I no longer have a problem with ClamAv and everything I disabled has been re-enabled but I am wondering if the order I did it in is important ie where there is a 'parent' and 'children' processes ie amavisd as a parent and Spamassassin, ClamAv are the child processes. Should the parent processes be started first or the child ones ie start amavisd before or after spamd and clam? Should I remember it like real life ie you can't have kids without parents so parents have to be started first? TIA Hylton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org