On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 10:00:01AM +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:
Marcus Meissner wrote:
The final aspect is specific to gtk2. There is a patch for gtk2, which I have installed. Why can't I see a matching patch to gtk2-debuginfo? There's a version conflict. Am I misunderstanding something or is this a bug? We do not ship updates for -debuginfo packages, you need to deinstall gtk2-debuginfo before updating. Have I understood you correctly: As soon as there's an update to a package, it's no longer possible to debug it?
You can still debug it and the debugger will show a backtrace at least, its just that the debuginfo package cannot be used. (The reason we leave them out is just bandwith and diskspace issues.)
"given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow"
Helping to find bugs is one of the very few things I feel able to contribute back to the community. This policy means I can't help in such situations.
There's a problem in gtk that apparently only shows up in some configurations. I happen to have a configuration where it shows up and was asked to try debugging with symbols to help locate it.
I know I could in theory recompile everything myself but I'm not confident I know how to get exactly the same configuration and they couldn't be sure either, so lack of the debuginfo package is a high enough barrier in this case to reduce the number of eyeballs.
If there's any possibility to change this policy, I believe it would be helpful to the goals of increasing quality and reducing costs.
$ cd /mounts/mirror/SuSE/ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.1 $ du ... 18748580 . $ Currently we have nearly 19GB of updates in the 10.1 repo after a little over 1 year of updates. Now add 3 or 4 times the size for just the debuginfos. The mirrors likely will not cope. We are aware of the issue and try to fix it (by leaving out the sources from the debuginfo package likely). Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org