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Re: [opensuse] KDE OR X HANGS
- From: Bob S <911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 23:35:56 -0400
- Message-id: <200705022335.56601.911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 22:58, M Harris wrote:
> On Wednesday 02 May 2007 21:35, Bob S wrote:
> > I am just curious as to why anyone would make statements about
> > ext2 &3 being an insane FS.
>
> heh, insane is of course an extreme word... mostly intended for humor...
> like calling M$ e v i l .....
>
> You will notice the the speed difference under load of course.
>
> However, the *big* insanity of ext2 ext3 is the wasted disk space. Now, it
> must also be said (in fairness) that the disk partition must be 30-40 megs
> large just to hold the journal (for reiserfs). Aside from that overhead...
> the fixed cluster size of ext2 ext3 makes the fs insane... from a modern
> perspective.
>
> Stable was a poor word choice... sorry. The better word would be
> reliable. The reiserfs is much more reliable from a recovery standpoint.
> The ext2 ext3 is more likely to get hammered than reiserfs, and recovery
> for a not clean disk shutdown is faster (way faster esp for large disks)
> for reiserfs. The only advantage that I can see for ext3 is that the fs
> journals both the meta data and the data, whereas reiserfs only journals
> the meta data... which of course is usually what gets clobbered. Bottom
> line, size and speed make ext3 less desireable... ok, maybe not insane.
> :-))
OK ....Points taken. Thanks for your opinions.
Bob S.
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> On Wednesday 02 May 2007 21:35, Bob S wrote:
> > I am just curious as to why anyone would make statements about
> > ext2 &3 being an insane FS.
>
> heh, insane is of course an extreme word... mostly intended for humor...
> like calling M$ e v i l .....
>
> You will notice the the speed difference under load of course.
>
> However, the *big* insanity of ext2 ext3 is the wasted disk space. Now, it
> must also be said (in fairness) that the disk partition must be 30-40 megs
> large just to hold the journal (for reiserfs). Aside from that overhead...
> the fixed cluster size of ext2 ext3 makes the fs insane... from a modern
> perspective.
>
> Stable was a poor word choice... sorry. The better word would be
> reliable. The reiserfs is much more reliable from a recovery standpoint.
> The ext2 ext3 is more likely to get hammered than reiserfs, and recovery
> for a not clean disk shutdown is faster (way faster esp for large disks)
> for reiserfs. The only advantage that I can see for ext3 is that the fs
> journals both the meta data and the data, whereas reiserfs only journals
> the meta data... which of course is usually what gets clobbered. Bottom
> line, size and speed make ext3 less desireable... ok, maybe not insane.
> :-))
OK ....Points taken. Thanks for your opinions.
Bob S.
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