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Re: [opensuse] disrtibution support
- From: Silviu Marin-Caea <silviu_marin-caea@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:49:44 +0300
- Message-id: <200704102149.44320.silviu_marin-caea@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Tuesday 10 April 2007 12:03:13 am M Harris wrote:
> On Monday 09 April 2007 16:31, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> > If you're new to Unix/Linux, and you don't actually _need_VI, then use
> > something friendly like MC, or pico, or joe. There's a whole text-book
> > on VI, and this is not a user-friendly thing, and neither is EMACS, altho
> > the old Unix hands will tell you it's the only way. It's not. If you
> > never expect to use a real Unix system, fageddaboudit!
> >
> > (I've probably started a flame war here, but if you investigate for
> > yourself, you'll find that I'm right.)
> >
> > --doug
>
> Well... I'm just incensed here... :-P
>
> ... first off, if you're new to unix, the very first thing you *must*
> learn is vi, period, end of story.
No, the first thing a Linux *newbie* needs to learn is to get out of vi in
case he becomes trapped. And that would be: [Esc]:q!
For editing stuff as root from the user desktop: [Alt+F2] kdesu kate
I hate it when people creep out newbies with vi and such. Maybe it will come
down to those if necessity ever arises, but not at the beginning, certainly
not as a newbie.
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> On Monday 09 April 2007 16:31, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> > If you're new to Unix/Linux, and you don't actually _need_VI, then use
> > something friendly like MC, or pico, or joe. There's a whole text-book
> > on VI, and this is not a user-friendly thing, and neither is EMACS, altho
> > the old Unix hands will tell you it's the only way. It's not. If you
> > never expect to use a real Unix system, fageddaboudit!
> >
> > (I've probably started a flame war here, but if you investigate for
> > yourself, you'll find that I'm right.)
> >
> > --doug
>
> Well... I'm just incensed here... :-P
>
> ... first off, if you're new to unix, the very first thing you *must*
> learn is vi, period, end of story.
No, the first thing a Linux *newbie* needs to learn is to get out of vi in
case he becomes trapped. And that would be: [Esc]:q!
For editing stuff as root from the user desktop: [Alt+F2] kdesu kate
I hate it when people creep out newbies with vi and such. Maybe it will come
down to those if necessity ever arises, but not at the beginning, certainly
not as a newbie.
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