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Re: [opensuse] Favorite E-mail Clients
- From: Kai Ponte <kai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:42:26 -0800
- Message-id: <200611200742.26234.kai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Monday 20 November 2006 07:05, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Kai,
>
> On Monday 20 November 2006 06:06, Kai Ponte wrote:
> > On Sunday 19 November 2006 22:19, Felix Miata wrote:
> > > On 2006/11/19 21:37 (GMT-0800) Kai Ponte apparently typed:
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > and does a great job.
> > >
> > > Of screwing up everyone's mail threading, since it fails to retain
> > > threading references,
> >
> > Not sure what that is.
>
> Then you need to learn about the In-Reply-To header, which is what makes
> nice hierarchical topic structures possible in contemporary,
> standards-based mail clients.
Um, okay.
I prefer flat listing in date order. My usenet client - Pan - is set the same
way.
>
> > > and enabling trojans, worms and virii to do their
> > > dirty work,
> >
> > Those are not a portion of the client, but rather the underlying OS,
> > which is inferior.
>
> You've got that really wrong. The underlying Windows OS kernel is just
> fine and well designed.
Heh. That's funny!
>
> It _is_ the fact that Outlook and Outlook Express will automatically
> invoke active content of the messages they receive (compounded by the
> ability of that code to access many local resource and initiate
> outgoing email) that makes them such a ripe portal of infection and
> transmission of malware of various sorts.
Again, the OS. If I ran active content on KMail or Thunderbird or whatever
under *nix, I'm still only one user and cannot infect the system files,
wherever they're located - /etc/fu/bar /bin/bash /usr/opt/home
I use KMail on my laptop, simply because it is integrated and has a decent
interface. There are - however - many things that I would like to see
updated. They're all UI features that I think the Outlook client has it
right for most - if not all - these desired features.
Keep in mind - I'm discussing the client functionality, ease of use,
intuitiveness (which is probably the same thing), customization, and speed.
All of these are end-user experience features and very subjective. I am
stating nothing about the underlying code, adherence to "standards", or
security.
I'm sure some email uber-geek out there will tell me all my arguments are
bogus and that I should be using Mutt or Pine. :P
--
kai
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> Kai,
>
> On Monday 20 November 2006 06:06, Kai Ponte wrote:
> > On Sunday 19 November 2006 22:19, Felix Miata wrote:
> > > On 2006/11/19 21:37 (GMT-0800) Kai Ponte apparently typed:
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > and does a great job.
> > >
> > > Of screwing up everyone's mail threading, since it fails to retain
> > > threading references,
> >
> > Not sure what that is.
>
> Then you need to learn about the In-Reply-To header, which is what makes
> nice hierarchical topic structures possible in contemporary,
> standards-based mail clients.
Um, okay.
I prefer flat listing in date order. My usenet client - Pan - is set the same
way.
>
> > > and enabling trojans, worms and virii to do their
> > > dirty work,
> >
> > Those are not a portion of the client, but rather the underlying OS,
> > which is inferior.
>
> You've got that really wrong. The underlying Windows OS kernel is just
> fine and well designed.
Heh. That's funny!
>
> It _is_ the fact that Outlook and Outlook Express will automatically
> invoke active content of the messages they receive (compounded by the
> ability of that code to access many local resource and initiate
> outgoing email) that makes them such a ripe portal of infection and
> transmission of malware of various sorts.
Again, the OS. If I ran active content on KMail or Thunderbird or whatever
under *nix, I'm still only one user and cannot infect the system files,
wherever they're located - /etc/fu/bar /bin/bash /usr/opt/home
I use KMail on my laptop, simply because it is integrated and has a decent
interface. There are - however - many things that I would like to see
updated. They're all UI features that I think the Outlook client has it
right for most - if not all - these desired features.
Keep in mind - I'm discussing the client functionality, ease of use,
intuitiveness (which is probably the same thing), customization, and speed.
All of these are end-user experience features and very subjective. I am
stating nothing about the underlying code, adherence to "standards", or
security.
I'm sure some email uber-geek out there will tell me all my arguments are
bogus and that I should be using Mutt or Pine. :P
--
kai
www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com
a turn signal is a statement, not a request
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