Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (4498 mails)

[Basil Chupin <blchupin@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> On 31/10/06 07:05, Basil Chupin wrote:
> > Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> > > On 31/10/06 05:49, Basil Chupin wrote:
> > > > <snip>
> > > > Here is what the wikipedia, in part, has to say about beta version:
> > > Basil, if you are relying on wikipedia as being definitive, I have some
> > > farmland to sell you -- about 350 km due east of Sydney :-)
> > Not interested in farmland--there's a drought you know. But I'm in the
> > market for a good Bridge, preferably with Harbour views, if you have
> > something in this line.

> Sorry, have no bridges. How about some beachfront property near Alice
> Springs?

What's the asking price?


> > I think both you and Clayton are missing the point here. I fully
> > understand and accept that a beta may be unstable and there to be
> > broken (but strangely, every beta of Firefox has performed almost
> > flawlessly; the same I can say about Thunderbird and I am now using
> > the beta1 of v2.0 without any problems [except one very minor one
> > which doesn't affect its daily use]).

> Given the number of open severe bugs I just found in the mozilla core
> alone, I have to say you are very lucky.

Rubbish. Name 50!


> > Before you can find out if the program is unstable or can be broken
> > you must be able to *install* the damn thing. Beta1 won't even install
> > correctly for chrissake! :-) . You cannot even find out what has been
> > installed when you do install it after doing the "workaround" because
> > one of the key components--for which 10.1 has now become infamous--is
> > not installed by the installation module!

> Is Yast not installed?


Yast2 Control Centre is but none of the YOU bits work. Each pretends to 
start then suddenly disappears. The YOU Software Management, eg, starts, 
states that it is preparing a list of software, announces that it is 
Downloading something (?the Source), then poof! just vanishes.

> I won't try to suggest that the problem is a trivial one, because it
> isn't. Beyond suggesting it might be the unintentional byproduct of some
> other bug fix (which probably happens a lot more often than anyone might
> wish to believe), I wont' even speculate how or why it arose.
>
> But that is what you get when you sign up for a beta. If you don't even
> have Yast, the old standby, at your disposal, then yes, it is
> irreparably broken. Is it really that bad?

It's all relative, isn't it? To me, yes, but to some others it's 
accepted as a natural occurrence in betas and therefore nothing of any 
import.

Cheers.


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