I have a friend in England with a Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 motherboard, with an nVidia nForce3 soundchip (loading intel 8x0 AC97 driver). It worked fine yesterday, but I talked here through doing the updates for libzypp and then we did the Kernel update. Since then, she has lost all sound. I have tried to get her to check the volume settings in Kmix and in YaST, but both Kmix and Yast have NO volume sliders/fields! The card is coming up as configured. I don't have any experience with nForce3 motherboards and built in soundchips (I have SB Audigy models on my desktops, and the Intel chipset on my laptop has never caused problems, it "just works"(tm)) and having done the standard things (re-loading the kernel removing and re-installing the sound card in YaST), but no dice so far. Has anybody got any ideas? I had remote support. Me here in southern Germany and her in England, I can't nip round and thump the case! :-D -- David Wright "I got to go figure," the tenant said. "We all got to figure. There's some way to stop this. It's not like lightning or earthquakes. We've got a bad thing made by men, and by God that's something we can change." - The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck