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Re: [SLE] Suse vs Ubuntu
- From: stephan beal <stephan@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:54:49 +0000 (UTC)
- Message-id: <200609131552.54130.stephan@xxxxxxxx>
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 14:36, Azerion wrote:
> Op woensdag 13 september 2006 12:09, schreef stephan beal:
> > http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2006-Aug/2455.html
> >
> > :)
>
> Yeah, compare rotten SUSE Linux 10.1 with Kubuntu. If I look at 10.2
> Alpha 4 I think they fixed the most things you complain about. Rug is
> lightning fast, KDE SUSE updaters is a blast (Gnome one does not work
> for some reason) and there are a lot more fixes.
There's no way in hell i'm going to upgrade a working machine with an
"alpha" release. One of the alphas (or betas?) for 10.1 had an
installation bug which deleted the partition table.
> 10.1 is a bad version. Comparing it with whatever does not say
> anything about SUSE in general only about one rotten version. And as
> wel all know, that will never happen again.
Read the post again - i wasn't comparing Kubuntu with Suse 10.1, but was
comparing Kubuntu against 8 years of experience with Suse. For example,
the yast install/upgrade tools have *always* been dog slow compared to
apt-based systems, it's just that the problem is exemplified in 10.1 (i
would almost say it was blown to comic-tragic proportions in 10.1).
> BTW. if you have problems with Yast/rpm then you can install Smart
> and use apt's. Or whatever you want cause it supports a lot.
Out of principal, i'm not going to fight with 10.1's update process any
more. i've already hosed my RPM db a couple times trying to get other
tools running. This machine is my DSL router and i work online from
home, so i can't afford to risk hosing it any further. No user should
have to install an add-on/3rd-party upgrade tool. It should be [a
working] part of the system (as it has been for a number of years).
> I came to SUSE some years ago and I only know the mailinglist for a
> year. Never used it, internetsupport maybe a few times cause I am
> seeking adventure (so now I run Alpha 4). I can't find myself in
> you're discription and conclusions.
Maybe you've got more patience with 10.1 than i.
--
----- stephan@xxxxxxxx http://s11n.net
"...pleasure is a grace and is not obedient to the commands
of the will." -- Alan W. Watts
> Op woensdag 13 september 2006 12:09, schreef stephan beal:
> > http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2006-Aug/2455.html
> >
> > :)
>
> Yeah, compare rotten SUSE Linux 10.1 with Kubuntu. If I look at 10.2
> Alpha 4 I think they fixed the most things you complain about. Rug is
> lightning fast, KDE SUSE updaters is a blast (Gnome one does not work
> for some reason) and there are a lot more fixes.
There's no way in hell i'm going to upgrade a working machine with an
"alpha" release. One of the alphas (or betas?) for 10.1 had an
installation bug which deleted the partition table.
> 10.1 is a bad version. Comparing it with whatever does not say
> anything about SUSE in general only about one rotten version. And as
> wel all know, that will never happen again.
Read the post again - i wasn't comparing Kubuntu with Suse 10.1, but was
comparing Kubuntu against 8 years of experience with Suse. For example,
the yast install/upgrade tools have *always* been dog slow compared to
apt-based systems, it's just that the problem is exemplified in 10.1 (i
would almost say it was blown to comic-tragic proportions in 10.1).
> BTW. if you have problems with Yast/rpm then you can install Smart
> and use apt's. Or whatever you want cause it supports a lot.
Out of principal, i'm not going to fight with 10.1's update process any
more. i've already hosed my RPM db a couple times trying to get other
tools running. This machine is my DSL router and i work online from
home, so i can't afford to risk hosing it any further. No user should
have to install an add-on/3rd-party upgrade tool. It should be [a
working] part of the system (as it has been for a number of years).
> I came to SUSE some years ago and I only know the mailinglist for a
> year. Never used it, internetsupport maybe a few times cause I am
> seeking adventure (so now I run Alpha 4). I can't find myself in
> you're discription and conclusions.
Maybe you've got more patience with 10.1 than i.
--
----- stephan@xxxxxxxx http://s11n.net
"...pleasure is a grace and is not obedient to the commands
of the will." -- Alan W. Watts
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