On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 02:01:26PM +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
Yes! Go through the archive and you'll find the first post of me to start this thread. I started it after discussion with nVidia; They HOST the packages on their server, but the package came by Novell!
So what? They host the drivers and thus take the major legal risk. So be happy with it. What is your problem with that? In your initial posting you wanted to have them on the build service. Why do you want Novell to take a legal risk, nVidia earns money with?
Why is everybody just pointing the ball around? Sure, it's easy to say:
Nobody is pointing anything around. Everybody is just providing for free what they are willing to provide. It's just _you_ that is crying for having more for free. If you want that, then provide it. --- And take the legal risk to be sued.
if the vendor doesn't create drivers, don't buy their hardware. Then PLEASE: What graphic card would you suggest at the moment to have full native 3D support? If this Opensource community is that strong, why is
It is neither mine not any kernel developer's job to suggest you anything convenient. Fighting for something does not mean sitting back and waiting for a convenient solution for everything but it often means to handle some annoyances.
the nvidia driver not capable of 3D? Because they feel there is another driver from nVidia? But still they feel that this one does not suit the needs? That's just bul****
You just don't get it. Those people that are _willing_ to provide open source drivers neither get valuable feedback from most users, nor get they support from the hardware vendors as long as a binary-only driver is around that lazy users just have to install and do no longer care.
Don't forget: Linux needs the support from Hardware vendors to be successful on the desktop (as well as on the server, but there at least
So you think the major goal of the kernel developers is to make Linux successful on the desktop ignoring all other goals? Well, I guess you have to learn that you are wrong. If you just want something that is successful on the desktop then use Windows.
graphic is less an issue... YET). I agree, it's good to have the kernel drivers open, for security revious and development. There's no question in this.
So what is the advantage of Linux then if you easily give up its major advantage, namely being open-source?
PS: please forgive me if I start to sound a bit angry, but this situation MAKES me angry.
Feel free to be in any mood you like, although this will not change the situation. If you want to change it, you have to _do_ the change, handling all the consequences that come with that. Robert -- Robert Schiele Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:rschiele@gmail.com "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur."