-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat August 19 2006 17:36, John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 19 August 2006 15:38, suse@rio.vg wrote:
I know it's hard to abandon work that's already done, but at a certain point, there is more to be gained by starting from scratch than trying to repair a broken system.
Apparently not. They dumped YOU for no good reason the minute Mantel was pushed out the door.
The situation we have now is the product of a petty internal turf war by a bunch of Gnome-heads bound and determined to put their stamp on SuSE.
Pretty much my take on the situation. I feared this type of turn of events would play itself out when Novell took over SuSE. Losing Mantel was a shame - he was much of the driving force behind the "original" SuSE offering. When I read that Novell had acquired Ximian (the only halfway usable form of Gnome outside of RH - and I avoid RH) that perhaps we would see some sort of coherency from the GNOME camp. But then Novell acquired SuSE and I had a very definite impression that the merge of SuSE and Ximian/GNOME would be forth coming. The question that loomed in my mind was "is the GNOME desktop going to become more functional in the SuSE distro or will it supplant it? Seems they attempted to supplant it but the outcry from the list and loyal user as so loud and angrey that Novell backpedalled rather quickly. Then soon after this the announcement that Mantel was leaving! I have been using SuSE since 7.0 and worked for a while on the beta team as a tester. Lately, I have been seriously entertaining a switch to another distro. Now it seems that the suits are more please with SLED 10 and eWeek has even giving it an Editior Choice award (should be my 1st clue things are going in the wrong direction - eWeek is basically an outlet for corporate shills) - but the article pointed out the Ubuntu had a far better system for package installation and updates. They did a search for such common programs as Mozilla Thunderbird, kdissert, and even "checkinstall" and was unable to find it in any repository and determined that Unbuntu beat SuSE in this respect hands down. I fail to see how Novell would have a situation wherein commonly used programs are now unavailable. Furthermore, Novell has moved all the software formerly on SuSE's German ftp site to a host of mismashed repositories - and half of these don't work or are fragments of their former selves. So, it seems, that if this trend continues my fears that Novell will make SuSE Linux a SuSE distro in name only with little, if any, resemblance to what drew me (and many others) to SuSE in the first place a reality. Pity. IMHO it is going the route that Mandrake did - and we all know what happened there. I hope that Novell doesn't kill SuSE they way they have in their previous products - Lotus and NetWare who???? Cheers, Curtis. - -- Spammers Beware: Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again! "The only problem with capitalism is capitalists, they're so damn greedy!" President Herbert Hoover -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE6BX67CQBg4DqqCwRAqrcAKCKbedYinWv6+iqnX+dczSSmyTmVACdHux+ yaf625rpATP2+e8Cn3NKrUs= =43mX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----