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Re: [SLE] Install source
- From: Curtis Rey <crey@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 05:23:19 +0000 (UTC)
- Message-id: <200608202224.14639.crey@xxxxxxxxxx>
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On Sun August 20 2006 13:03, John Andersen wrote:
> Many of my smaller customers just buy the boxed set of SuSE instead of
> SLES. I am facing such an install now, where I have to decide if I want to
> put SuSE 9.3 on the server, or Ubuntu.
>
> SuSE 10.1 is just broken, and totally out of the question.
>
> 9.3 is old, but rock solid.
9.3 is fairly solid. I'm running OpenSuSe 10.0 and it has some issues, but
nowhere near what seem to be rearing it's ugly head in 10.1 - so I'm in the
middle ground here I guess. 10.0 is the first non-boxed set I've ever run
and I'm glad I didn't slap any money down for the latest and greatest - I'd
hate myself if I'd bought the latest SuSE boxed set (10.1?) considering how
broken everyone say it is
>
> Ubuntu is a bit of a learning curve for me, but offers a promise of
> stability for my customers.
My first Linux OS what the old Corel Linux - deb distro. Back in the day it
was particularly challenging since Linux was still in its infancy and support
was flat out missing in many areas (had to compile my own nic drivers from
scratch back then - often dicey). Now, however, Debian is much more user
friendly and has many more available programs than most (if not all) rpm
based distros. Furthermore, if you'll recall, many people grumble about the
slow pace of debian releases (or use to anyway). The reason they take longer
to release newer version is because they tend to be more anal about bug hunts
and shake outs. Debian has a rep for being rock solid in many respects.
Sure it's a bit of a learning curve, but for those that have some previous
Linux experience it's not that hard to get up to speed. You do need to give a
little more thought to the manner in which you update packages however. Back
in the day apt-get was the tool to use and it would grab whatever dependant
packages needed during an upgrade to package X or Y. This would at times
present problems, insofar that if you had a particular package needed by a
program got upgraded due to dependancy requirements of something you
upgraded, your program now wouldn't run or work right (crash or lock).
I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't such a problem anymore. At least I bet
that you might be able to find a program that would address this issue
(synaptic frontend or something). The more I write about it the more curious
I'm getting - but that would mean having to back up and write to a DVD, then
wipe the hdd's and install. But Kubuntu (or Ubuntu with KDE installed on top
later) sounds more and more interesting! I'm not ready to jump ship yet -
I've spent a fair amount of time with SuSE and will give it the benefit of
the doubt for now. I just hope that Novell doesn't drive this into the
ground, that would very truly be a shame!
Just my $0.02. Curtis.
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survivors will be shot again!
"The only problem with capitalism is capitalists,
they're so damn greedy!"
President Herbert Hoover
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On Sun August 20 2006 13:03, John Andersen wrote:
> Many of my smaller customers just buy the boxed set of SuSE instead of
> SLES. I am facing such an install now, where I have to decide if I want to
> put SuSE 9.3 on the server, or Ubuntu.
>
> SuSE 10.1 is just broken, and totally out of the question.
>
> 9.3 is old, but rock solid.
9.3 is fairly solid. I'm running OpenSuSe 10.0 and it has some issues, but
nowhere near what seem to be rearing it's ugly head in 10.1 - so I'm in the
middle ground here I guess. 10.0 is the first non-boxed set I've ever run
and I'm glad I didn't slap any money down for the latest and greatest - I'd
hate myself if I'd bought the latest SuSE boxed set (10.1?) considering how
broken everyone say it is
>
> Ubuntu is a bit of a learning curve for me, but offers a promise of
> stability for my customers.
My first Linux OS what the old Corel Linux - deb distro. Back in the day it
was particularly challenging since Linux was still in its infancy and support
was flat out missing in many areas (had to compile my own nic drivers from
scratch back then - often dicey). Now, however, Debian is much more user
friendly and has many more available programs than most (if not all) rpm
based distros. Furthermore, if you'll recall, many people grumble about the
slow pace of debian releases (or use to anyway). The reason they take longer
to release newer version is because they tend to be more anal about bug hunts
and shake outs. Debian has a rep for being rock solid in many respects.
Sure it's a bit of a learning curve, but for those that have some previous
Linux experience it's not that hard to get up to speed. You do need to give a
little more thought to the manner in which you update packages however. Back
in the day apt-get was the tool to use and it would grab whatever dependant
packages needed during an upgrade to package X or Y. This would at times
present problems, insofar that if you had a particular package needed by a
program got upgraded due to dependancy requirements of something you
upgraded, your program now wouldn't run or work right (crash or lock).
I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't such a problem anymore. At least I bet
that you might be able to find a program that would address this issue
(synaptic frontend or something). The more I write about it the more curious
I'm getting - but that would mean having to back up and write to a DVD, then
wipe the hdd's and install. But Kubuntu (or Ubuntu with KDE installed on top
later) sounds more and more interesting! I'm not ready to jump ship yet -
I've spent a fair amount of time with SuSE and will give it the benefit of
the doubt for now. I just hope that Novell doesn't drive this into the
ground, that would very truly be a shame!
Just my $0.02. Curtis.
- --
Spammers Beware: Trespassers will be shot,
survivors will be shot again!
"The only problem with capitalism is capitalists,
they're so damn greedy!"
President Herbert Hoover
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