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Re: [opensuse] Novell GPL violation thread on Groklaw
- From: Miguel Angel Alvarez <maacruz@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 01:16:23 +0200
- Message-id: <200608070116.23652.maacruz@xxxxxxxxx>
El Domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 17:12, Thomas Hertweck escribió:
> Andreas Hanke wrote:
> > Miguel Angel Alvarez schrieb:
> >> So, is Novell really violating the GPL with SuSE 10.1?
> >
> > Could you please elaborate a bit more? Which sources of which package
> > are missing or told to be missing?
>
> I've seen this reasoning before. According to GPL V2 §3, you need to
> either ship the source code with the binary code, or you need to
> accompany the binary code with a written statement where or how to get
> the corresponding source code. It seems as if people who bought the box
> version of SUSE Linux 10.1 couldn't find any written information in the
> box where to get the source for the packages that make up SUSE Linux
> 10.1. Therefore, they argue that SUSE Linux 10.1 might violate the GPL.
>
I think that is the point.
I don't have the boxed SUSE 10.1 either, so I can't check it myself. I have
had a look in the ftp and there is a file "COPYRIGHT" on the root, which
seems inherited from older suse releases and unfortunately has not been
updated, as it references ftp.suse.com as source repository (which is not
longer true for Free opensuse packages).
Stephan said that there is a mention to source code on the bottom side of the
box, but what text is there? Are there clear instructions of how to get the
source code?
Here
http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/source_code.html
Novell has put a very nice and clear notice of how to get the sources (so it
is clear that Novell is playing nice) but if this notice or a similar one is
not printed anywhere on the boxed edition, it would be technically in breach
of the GPL (which could easyly fixed by putting a notice or the sources
themselves in ftp.suse.com)
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> Andreas Hanke wrote:
> > Miguel Angel Alvarez schrieb:
> >> So, is Novell really violating the GPL with SuSE 10.1?
> >
> > Could you please elaborate a bit more? Which sources of which package
> > are missing or told to be missing?
>
> I've seen this reasoning before. According to GPL V2 §3, you need to
> either ship the source code with the binary code, or you need to
> accompany the binary code with a written statement where or how to get
> the corresponding source code. It seems as if people who bought the box
> version of SUSE Linux 10.1 couldn't find any written information in the
> box where to get the source for the packages that make up SUSE Linux
> 10.1. Therefore, they argue that SUSE Linux 10.1 might violate the GPL.
>
I think that is the point.
I don't have the boxed SUSE 10.1 either, so I can't check it myself. I have
had a look in the ftp and there is a file "COPYRIGHT" on the root, which
seems inherited from older suse releases and unfortunately has not been
updated, as it references ftp.suse.com as source repository (which is not
longer true for Free opensuse packages).
Stephan said that there is a mention to source code on the bottom side of the
box, but what text is there? Are there clear instructions of how to get the
source code?
Here
http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/source_code.html
Novell has put a very nice and clear notice of how to get the sources (so it
is clear that Novell is playing nice) but if this notice or a similar one is
not printed anywhere on the boxed edition, it would be technically in breach
of the GPL (which could easyly fixed by putting a notice or the sources
themselves in ftp.suse.com)
--
Don't see the world through a window, be open{source}minded, and be free :-)
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