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Re: [SLE] And another 10.1 showstopper
- From: Per Jessen <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 08:31:19 +0200
- Message-id: <e5m1jn$ble$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
James Knott wrote:
>> As to whether the GPL vs non-GPL drivers issue will prevent Linux
>> from becoming mainstream, I'm not so sure. Very large European
>> public administrations have already gone Linux - perhaps it's not
>> mainstream, but very impressive nonetheless.
>
> It's a problem if it makes it impossible to use commonly available
> hardware.
I agree it's a problem, but that's not the same as preventing Linux from
mainstream - whatever that means.
>> I beg to differ. So far we use only SUSE Linux, and we've only hit
>> one case where 10.1 did not provide the driver - Atheros wifi. We
>> got it from madwifi instead. Our hardware is very varied - IBM
>> Thinkpads, misc workstations, desktops, Compaq servers.
>
> I have an IBM ThinkPad R31, which uses the slamr modem driver. Will
> it still work in 10.1? 10.2?
Isn't that what this thread started out discussing - that 10.1 does not
have the slamr module.
> If a manufacturer chooses to make a non-GPL module, what's the
> problem??? I'm not saying SUSE or other has to include it, but to
> actually prevent it from being used??? That's nonsense!!!
But they're not. SUSE may not be distributing a non-GPL module/driver,
but nothing can prevent you from retrieving it from elsewhere.
/Per Jessen, Zürich
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>> As to whether the GPL vs non-GPL drivers issue will prevent Linux
>> from becoming mainstream, I'm not so sure. Very large European
>> public administrations have already gone Linux - perhaps it's not
>> mainstream, but very impressive nonetheless.
>
> It's a problem if it makes it impossible to use commonly available
> hardware.
I agree it's a problem, but that's not the same as preventing Linux from
mainstream - whatever that means.
>> I beg to differ. So far we use only SUSE Linux, and we've only hit
>> one case where 10.1 did not provide the driver - Atheros wifi. We
>> got it from madwifi instead. Our hardware is very varied - IBM
>> Thinkpads, misc workstations, desktops, Compaq servers.
>
> I have an IBM ThinkPad R31, which uses the slamr modem driver. Will
> it still work in 10.1? 10.2?
Isn't that what this thread started out discussing - that 10.1 does not
have the slamr module.
> If a manufacturer chooses to make a non-GPL module, what's the
> problem??? I'm not saying SUSE or other has to include it, but to
> actually prevent it from being used??? That's nonsense!!!
But they're not. SUSE may not be distributing a non-GPL module/driver,
but nothing can prevent you from retrieving it from elsewhere.
/Per Jessen, Zürich
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