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Re: [SLE] And another 10.1 showstopper
- From: Ken Schneider <suse-list2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:28:20 -0400
- Message-id: <1149179300.17032.3.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 09:20 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote:
> On 6/1/06, Bruce Marshall <bmarsh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > "full source available" is never going to happen for most of the hardware we
> > currently operateor future hardware. Deal with that thought!
> >
> > Either linux finds a way to allow use of proprietary code or it dies.
> >
>
> I think that is right .. linux has to find a way to accept/accomodate
> the use of proprietary drivers.
>
> I don't know enough about the architecture, but is there not, in
> linux, a "HAL" that exists outside of the kernel? Can't the kernel
> "access" non-OSS driver software via a "generic" abstraction, and thus
> proprietarty stuff does not per-se "contaminate" the kernel/OSS
> material?
>
> It just seems as though the SUSE kernel dev guys attitude "after feb
> 2008 we will prevent non-oss USB code from intitializing" --- is
> harsh, unless there is an alternative way to provide access to such
> hardware
Looks like a date to have another distro in the works for install. Must
be nice to -think- you are a big enough distro to bully your customers.
I was raised to -always- treat the customer first, the customer is
-always- right no matter what. Unless you don't care about going out of
business.
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
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> On 6/1/06, Bruce Marshall <bmarsh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > "full source available" is never going to happen for most of the hardware we
> > currently operateor future hardware. Deal with that thought!
> >
> > Either linux finds a way to allow use of proprietary code or it dies.
> >
>
> I think that is right .. linux has to find a way to accept/accomodate
> the use of proprietary drivers.
>
> I don't know enough about the architecture, but is there not, in
> linux, a "HAL" that exists outside of the kernel? Can't the kernel
> "access" non-OSS driver software via a "generic" abstraction, and thus
> proprietarty stuff does not per-se "contaminate" the kernel/OSS
> material?
>
> It just seems as though the SUSE kernel dev guys attitude "after feb
> 2008 we will prevent non-oss USB code from intitializing" --- is
> harsh, unless there is an alternative way to provide access to such
> hardware
Looks like a date to have another distro in the works for install. Must
be nice to -think- you are a big enough distro to bully your customers.
I was raised to -always- treat the customer first, the customer is
-always- right no matter what. Unless you don't care about going out of
business.
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
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