Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (3605 mails)

[Rajko M <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Doug McGarrett wrote:
> /snip/
> 
> 
>>  But when it comes to Vista, it's gonna be a simple cut case, it's gonna
> win, 
>> because people will get Vista, not because it's good or stable.  But because 
>> it's simply the best piece of crap around.  People buy stuff, because of 
>> their social status, not because of their need to do so.  All the guys will 
>> talk about Vista, because it's new, it's fat, it looks great, it's got some 
>> nice features ... wether it's bloated or not, isn't relevant.
>>
>>  On the other hand, you've got Linux ... and everything I see on Linux
> today, 
>> with the exception of Xgl and compiz, is a cheap copy of Windows.  Back a
> few 
>> years, you'd got enlightenment Window manager.  It wasn't stable, it was
> hard 
>> to run, but it was great looking and was a knockout ... because it didn't 
>> look like Windows.  Take a look at Linux themes ... even the old 
>> enlightenment themes are gone.  It all looks like Windows, the feel is the 
>> same as Windows ... the interface is the same as windows.  The same taskbar, 
>> the same menu setup, the same icon bar ... it's just windows, with a 
>> different look.
>>
>>  No, if Novell wants to make this desktop a success to challenge Windows.  
>> They're gonna have to do something, to get the enthusiasts back on track, 
>> that made Linux what it is today.  The programs are good, and getting
> better, 
>> but they lack a touch of glory.
>>
> 
> The Linux developers have realized that the computing community has
> standardized on a particular GUI, which can be fiddled with, but not
> really changed.  Just like the dashboard on a car, or the controls on
> a clothes dryer.  There's nothing wrong with the M/S Windows GUI.
> It can be tinkered with, but time has shown that people are satisfied
> with it.  I am.  I am disappointed when something says "May I?" after
> telling the machine to print, or whatever, but that's a minor glitch.
> Those who would rather not see a Windows-like GUI have alternatives,
> which have not been very popular, AFAICT.  How many questions or
> notes on the other X-windows GUI's have you seen on this list?  The
> tremendous groundswell against GNOME tells you that the KDE clone
> of the Windows GUI is what everyone out there wants.  And if Linux is
> ever to become a desktop system, it will have to have the same
> dashboard, the same shift pattern, as Windows.
> 
> --dm

The same dash board etc, in many cars is not without reason. One needs
some data like speed and mileage to see anytime easy. If that would make
you looking far from the road it would be dangerous, and that makes all
dashboards looking similar. With the gear shifting manufacturers have
little more freedom, but no many like to learn totally different system
with every new car, so they are pretty much the same too.

The same is with computer software. It doesn't look similar for some
irrational reason, but because once layout is determined with how easy
is to reach certain function, the other time it will be similar to
comply with the way people are used to accomplish the job.

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Regards,
Rajko.

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