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Re: [SLE] FYI: OpenSUSE vs Vista
- From: "Orn E. Hansen" <orn_hansen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 16:07:16 +0200
- Message-id: <200606041607.16700.orn_hansen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sunnudaginn 4 júní 2006 09:39 skrifaði Ken Hough:
> Remains to be seen. From what I've read, it's nowhere near what it's
> cracked up to be and will lock users in so tightly the pips will squeak.
> Maybe, just maybe, people will start to see it for what it is.
>
Well, I haven't tried Vista myself. But from what I can understand from
those who have, and are quite neutral even to the eye candy stuff. Vista
beta1 was quite unstable, and almost unusable, but as of beta2 it's even more
stable than XP. And that is from people, who haven't tried the eye candy
stuff.
> Cheap! Only in the sense that it's free.
>
No, as in it's made too look like and copy the feel ...
>
> Hardly the stuff to gain converts!
>
It's that kind of stuff, that made the converts ... go figure.
> Just because things CAN look like MS Windows stuff shouldn't be a
> problem. Under Linux, they don't NEED to look like MS stuff. You can
> set up your Linux desktop to look pretty much as you wish, using a
> choiice of desktop managers. There's far more depth to Linux than in MS
> Windows.
>
The fact that it all looks like MS Windows, makes the entire community
highly retrospect.
> Anyway, is it a bad thing that default setups look somewhat like Bill's
> offerings? This is likely to encourage more converts than if it was
> widly different.
>
People who want to get something else than MS Windows, can be put into
several categories.
1. People who find Windows non satisfying.
2. People who don't like Windows look'n'feel.
3. People who want to be able to make their own software and settings.
4. Students and those who are studying, and want something to experiment
with.
5. People who can't afford Windows.
6. People who don't like Microsoft and want to make something that is
equivalent and want to reduce their marketing share.
Personally, I don't think 6 is worth focusing on. And groups 1-3 are
certainly not worth ignoring.
> If we play only to 'enthusiasts', Linux will remain an enthusiasts OS.
> We need converts to sweep MS aside. and that will not happen without
> some familiar encouragement.
>
Enthusiasts and those with a born genius of some sort, are the ones who have
brought us to this place in the universe. We stand on their shoulders, and
it should be our goal to ensure there are others like them, for our children
to stand on their shoulders. But then, maybe I'm lucky not having any
children.
Just my 2€ cents worth.
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> Remains to be seen. From what I've read, it's nowhere near what it's
> cracked up to be and will lock users in so tightly the pips will squeak.
> Maybe, just maybe, people will start to see it for what it is.
>
Well, I haven't tried Vista myself. But from what I can understand from
those who have, and are quite neutral even to the eye candy stuff. Vista
beta1 was quite unstable, and almost unusable, but as of beta2 it's even more
stable than XP. And that is from people, who haven't tried the eye candy
stuff.
> Cheap! Only in the sense that it's free.
>
No, as in it's made too look like and copy the feel ...
>
> Hardly the stuff to gain converts!
>
It's that kind of stuff, that made the converts ... go figure.
> Just because things CAN look like MS Windows stuff shouldn't be a
> problem. Under Linux, they don't NEED to look like MS stuff. You can
> set up your Linux desktop to look pretty much as you wish, using a
> choiice of desktop managers. There's far more depth to Linux than in MS
> Windows.
>
The fact that it all looks like MS Windows, makes the entire community
highly retrospect.
> Anyway, is it a bad thing that default setups look somewhat like Bill's
> offerings? This is likely to encourage more converts than if it was
> widly different.
>
People who want to get something else than MS Windows, can be put into
several categories.
1. People who find Windows non satisfying.
2. People who don't like Windows look'n'feel.
3. People who want to be able to make their own software and settings.
4. Students and those who are studying, and want something to experiment
with.
5. People who can't afford Windows.
6. People who don't like Microsoft and want to make something that is
equivalent and want to reduce their marketing share.
Personally, I don't think 6 is worth focusing on. And groups 1-3 are
certainly not worth ignoring.
> If we play only to 'enthusiasts', Linux will remain an enthusiasts OS.
> We need converts to sweep MS aside. and that will not happen without
> some familiar encouragement.
>
Enthusiasts and those with a born genius of some sort, are the ones who have
brought us to this place in the universe. We stand on their shoulders, and
it should be our goal to ensure there are others like them, for our children
to stand on their shoulders. But then, maybe I'm lucky not having any
children.
Just my 2€ cents worth.
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