As you may know, we have little influence about the presentation of the commercial SUSE Linux. I speak about the "boxed" set, not the Novell supported professional ones. But, who knows, may be it could be usefull to express our feeling here. The actual boxed set of the 10.1 is a pity. The disks themselves are nice looking: http://fr.opensuse.org/Téléchargement/choisir_la_bonne_version#Version_.22Boite.22 this is good. But they are just fitted in a small paper cover. The box itself is cheap, very far from the usual SUSE standard (I remember of 9.0 munificent box). There are only the starting manual printed. Visibly all have been done to get a cheap product and the street price follows this. However usual deal channels don't allow really for cheap prices. This seems to me ridiculous when the download of nearly the same product is free. I wouls like to see: * A "professional" boxed set with all the disks, _two_ DVD9 and 5CD, all two manuals (1000+pages) is the local langage, and this at the price it deserve, whatever high it is. When I see the price of manuals alone on the shelves, (much) more than $100 should not be a real problem. SUSE standards again. Much less expensive than Novell servers products (with they 5+ years support), but worth 2 years support. * A minimal cd/dvd set. 5CD, 1DVD9, all of them in an A4 hard paper enveloppe (nearly no manual) - sold through e-bay and mass dealers (Amazon?), with _NO_ Novell support, for the printing cost. This should be less than $15+shipment. The latter for thouse without download capability all over the world. your feeling? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com