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Re: [opensuse] What is "Community?"
- From: Martin Schlander <suse@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 23:55:44 +0200
- Message-id: <200606042355.44840.suse@xxxxxxxxxx>
Søndag 04 juni 2006 08:21 skrev Peter Flodin:
> People are confused. The market is confused. Novell even refers to
> openSUSE as a distro.
>
> It is therefore totally understandable why OT posts happen this list,
> as the definition of what is On-topic is obviously not clear.
> Education is of limited value, because for every time we say openSUSE
> is the community and SUSE Linux is the distro, teh user will read a
> review of "openSUSE" or a press release from Novell such how the new
> driver proces will be available in openSUSE.
>
> Instead of fighting against all this, as said in other thread, I think
> the community specific discussions should be in a new list called
> opensuse-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> This list can then be deleted.
We have to fight against this - the alternative is worse. We already have
people thinking that SUSE and OpenSUSE are to different distros (including
Randall apparently). Recently I saw this question on #opensuse: "Can I use
SUSE RPMs on OpenSUSE?"
People really don't get it. Some think OpenSUSE is just about an oss-version,
some think it's a non-Novell fork, people think all kinds of stuff. But now
we have removed the OSS naming - and every SUSE version is OSS until the user
himself installs certain stuff - in time this'll help clear things up.
We need to be firm and keep explaining it to people - including the
Novell-guys - otherwise the confusion will be even greater than it already
is. Personally I recently mailed Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols to complain about
his incorrect use of OpenSUSE in a review.
We have to educate people on what OpenSUSE is about - how else can we get
members to join and be active? It's not just a matter of getting the "wrong"
people off this list - it's also a matter of getting the "right" people on.
If we repeat it often enough it must sink in to gernerel public
sometime. "SUSE Linux is the distro - OpenSUSE is the Novell-sponsored
community-project that provides it!" - It can't be that hard to understand.
Martin Schlander
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> People are confused. The market is confused. Novell even refers to
> openSUSE as a distro.
>
> It is therefore totally understandable why OT posts happen this list,
> as the definition of what is On-topic is obviously not clear.
> Education is of limited value, because for every time we say openSUSE
> is the community and SUSE Linux is the distro, teh user will read a
> review of "openSUSE" or a press release from Novell such how the new
> driver proces will be available in openSUSE.
>
> Instead of fighting against all this, as said in other thread, I think
> the community specific discussions should be in a new list called
> opensuse-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> This list can then be deleted.
We have to fight against this - the alternative is worse. We already have
people thinking that SUSE and OpenSUSE are to different distros (including
Randall apparently). Recently I saw this question on #opensuse: "Can I use
SUSE RPMs on OpenSUSE?"
People really don't get it. Some think OpenSUSE is just about an oss-version,
some think it's a non-Novell fork, people think all kinds of stuff. But now
we have removed the OSS naming - and every SUSE version is OSS until the user
himself installs certain stuff - in time this'll help clear things up.
We need to be firm and keep explaining it to people - including the
Novell-guys - otherwise the confusion will be even greater than it already
is. Personally I recently mailed Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols to complain about
his incorrect use of OpenSUSE in a review.
We have to educate people on what OpenSUSE is about - how else can we get
members to join and be active? It's not just a matter of getting the "wrong"
people off this list - it's also a matter of getting the "right" people on.
If we repeat it often enough it must sink in to gernerel public
sometime. "SUSE Linux is the distro - OpenSUSE is the Novell-sponsored
community-project that provides it!" - It can't be that hard to understand.
Martin Schlander
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