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Re: [opensuse] SuSE-watcher/ksmarttray (was: Package management tool confusion)
  • From: Michael Schueller <schueller-berlin@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:13:46 +0200
  • Message-id: <200606031013.46358.schueller-berlin@xxxxxx>
Am Samstag, 3. Juni 2006 01:31 schrieb Pascal Bleser:
> Michael Schueller wrote:
> > Am Freitag, 2. Juni 2006 21:52 schrieb Marcus Meissner:
> >>> On a side note: do you know if there are plans to develop a
> >>> KDE native updater applet?
> >>
> >> Yes. We even have found a student who wants to do it ;)
> >>
> >> http://code.google.com/soc/suse/about.html
> >>
> >> Btw, the previous YOU watcher just run a commandline program
> >> ("online_update")... It could be ported to just call "rug"...
> >> ;)
> >
> > How about patching the old SuSE-Watcher to just call smart ..
> > That would be nice ;-)
>
> That's what ksmarttray already does ;)
>
> It's shipped as part of smart, in contrib/, and I package it as
> "smart-ksmarttray".
>
> It's very simple though, it just calls "smart update" on a
> regular basis (interval is hardcoded in the sources), checks the
> output and reports it. So it's a lot like SuSE-watcher.

Hello Pascal,
yes, ksmarttray is a lot like the suse-watcher, but what i actually
wanted to say was, that there was, and is, a tool which has the
flexibility in handling different kinds of sources. Which is well
tested and accepted by the users.
So, whatever zmd wanted to make better, or will do better in futur,
this tool is simply not coming out of the comunity.
It is against the meaning of opensource, and in this way i can not
understand that NOVELL on on hand yells out OpenSource, and on the
other hand fiddles somthing together behind close doors.
It will never be accepted, and it will never be this well dokomented
then smart.
And this is a really bad Point.
At least in germany it´s like that.
When you buy somthing, even when it´s software, and it is not well
dokumented, you can give it back, because it not useable.

So, whatever the good thougts where, they should have never go this
way. They should have taken something out of the comunity where
they can say "we know that it´s working, and here you will find
documentation about".

Thats my point of this
Thanks Pascal for keeping us up2date with smart (and others)

Greets
Michael


> cheers

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