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Re: [opensuse] GNOME 2.14/15 and Ximian rants
- From: Martin Schlander <suse@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 00:04:36 +0200
- Message-id: <200605230004.37101.suse@xxxxxxxxxx>
søndag 21 maj 2006 18:44 skrev Chris Maaskant:
> > (3)
> > warn noobs that 10.1 is sort of an interim release - as far as
> > packagemanagement goes - to avoid that this release does serious
> > damage to the good and respected (by sane, mature people at least)
> > SUSE name.
>
> !?!? You are joking right?
> If it is so bad, it shouldn't be sold at al, or at least put a big
> warning on the box saying; don't use this unless you like trouble.
Off topic:
Like I wrote before this discussion is off topic and almost thread hijacking
but I feel I have to answer.
I'm just speaking my mind as a community member - I never had anything to do
with the decision to release. In my opinion 10.1 packagemanagement is bad
enough to give SUSE a bad rep - who knows how long it'll take to remedy that.
I think this should and can be avoided/reduced by an effort to "prepare"
people for some troubles and informing them of workarounds - like using Smart
- or maybe waiting a couple of months before upgrading - maybe then some
patches will be out - let's hope that some are out by the time the retail box
hits stores.
Again, I believe that this buggy release will help make 10.2 and SLED 10
better - and in the long run we'll benefit from it - but for now damage
control is on top of my agenda.
But hey, you make up your own mind how bad you think it is.
Martin / cb400f
> > (3)
> > warn noobs that 10.1 is sort of an interim release - as far as
> > packagemanagement goes - to avoid that this release does serious
> > damage to the good and respected (by sane, mature people at least)
> > SUSE name.
>
> !?!? You are joking right?
> If it is so bad, it shouldn't be sold at al, or at least put a big
> warning on the box saying; don't use this unless you like trouble.
Off topic:
Like I wrote before this discussion is off topic and almost thread hijacking
but I feel I have to answer.
I'm just speaking my mind as a community member - I never had anything to do
with the decision to release. In my opinion 10.1 packagemanagement is bad
enough to give SUSE a bad rep - who knows how long it'll take to remedy that.
I think this should and can be avoided/reduced by an effort to "prepare"
people for some troubles and informing them of workarounds - like using Smart
- or maybe waiting a couple of months before upgrading - maybe then some
patches will be out - let's hope that some are out by the time the retail box
hits stores.
Again, I believe that this buggy release will help make 10.2 and SLED 10
better - and in the long run we'll benefit from it - but for now damage
control is on top of my agenda.
But hey, you make up your own mind how bad you think it is.
Martin / cb400f
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