Pascal Bleser wrote:
[...] So, 10.0 has been spreading widely, 10.1 is about to be released after a very long and tedious development cycle (I guess AJ and the YaST2 developers now know what it must feel like when a woman gives birth after 20 hours spent in a maternity room ;))
Well, I think they're better off because they're being paid for it and they don't have to care about their baby for the next 18 years... ;-)
[...] With the exception of houghi's DVD script, almost all the mails in the past two months on the lists have been about "my soundcard doesn't work", "Xen doesn't work", and of course "zypp/zmd problem". While that's fine on opensuse-factory or suse-linux-e, it's not on this list, and there hasn't been anything else, at least not as far as I can remember.
From my point of view, a (SUSE) community might be all of what has been mentioned above (all people share interest in SUSE Linux and the openSUSE project) although some people might be more active than others, no doubt (sorry, but some people have to work hard and can't afford to spend the whole day playing with SUSE Linux betas or writing emails to
This is a general problem on mailing lists and it won't go away as long as people on this list really answer all of the (in principle) OT emails. It needs combined effort to achieve a solution. Coming back to the original subject, I have a simple question: what is "the community"? Is somebody part of "the openSUSE community" because (i) he creates RPM packages for SUSE Linux and serves other users, or (ii) he is an interested power user of SUSE Linux (or an interested beginner?), or (iii) he writes emails on the opensuse mailing list, or (iv) he helps others by answering SUSE-related questions in forums or on mailing lists, or (v) he submits bug reports for SUSE products, or (vi) <add whatever you like here>?? You wrote "we, the community" in the subject of this email - do you think I am part of it? the opensuse mailing list ;-)). Unfortunately, I get the impression that others here on this mailing list have a different opinion about that subject and a very restricted definition of "the community" (e.g. the inner secret circle actively developing the SUSE Linux distribution or some important SUSE-related software projects). The discussion about the opensuse.org email address points also in this direction (Or will "everybody" get an opensuse.org email address? Very unlikely.). From my point of view, for instance a beginner can also be a very valuable part of the community although he might "only" report things that are difficult to understand or software that is difficult to use, etc. I think it takes some time for a community to grow (together) and one cannot enforce something like a community. The openSUSE project is quite young, it just takes some time to get everything in place... Greetings from London, Th.