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Re: [SLE] The return of SUSE
- From: Adam Tauno Williams <adam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:32:30 -0500
- Message-id: <1141997551.8719.14.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > where is the desktop-product that has KDE as default?
> > Why must be there a different product for it?
> Well, either one thinks, KDE and Gnome are "equal", then there cannot be a
> default, or maybe a random one. Or you supply two products with different
> defaults.
This whole thread/conversation/topic is pointless.
> If one thinks that one of them is better
Define "better"? ......
NLD is a Novell product, they are going to do research and make a
decision. This has to happen. As a system administrator in a shop
using both Open Source and proprietary solutions I can't begin to
explain how e-x-h-a-u-s-t-i-n-g this kind of 'debate' (I use the term
loosely) is. Companies want *PRODUCTS* not *PROJECTS*, companies don't
give a &*@^*&@ about projects. Companies need defined solutions to
problems, which is the point of all this technology in the first place.
If you don't like product A then you go find and buy product B. You can
use either GNOME or KDE, or several other, desktops on OpenSUSE (which
is really more of a project then a product). A company isn't going to
give it's users a desktop choice (not any SANE company at least) so why
would a desktop PRODUCT need to include multiple desktops (even if NLD
does)? If you don't like a desktop product you go and find another one.
> , then it has to be set as default.
> How else would you decide to set the default? However, if one sets a default,
> one has to re-asses it with every release,
No way. One lives with ones decision, the purpose of a default is to
provide some kind of order and consistency. Gee, why don't I switch
between Lotus Notes and Microsoft Exchange every other weekend? I
really like that is in *that* patch or update....
> so one might have altering
> defaults, which is not really less confusing then having none.
> Is Novell going to re-asses the default on every release?
A sure way to sink the company.
> > Why must be there a different product for it?
> Well, either one thinks, KDE and Gnome are "equal", then there cannot be a
> default, or maybe a random one. Or you supply two products with different
> defaults.
This whole thread/conversation/topic is pointless.
> If one thinks that one of them is better
Define "better"? ......
NLD is a Novell product, they are going to do research and make a
decision. This has to happen. As a system administrator in a shop
using both Open Source and proprietary solutions I can't begin to
explain how e-x-h-a-u-s-t-i-n-g this kind of 'debate' (I use the term
loosely) is. Companies want *PRODUCTS* not *PROJECTS*, companies don't
give a &*@^*&@ about projects. Companies need defined solutions to
problems, which is the point of all this technology in the first place.
If you don't like product A then you go find and buy product B. You can
use either GNOME or KDE, or several other, desktops on OpenSUSE (which
is really more of a project then a product). A company isn't going to
give it's users a desktop choice (not any SANE company at least) so why
would a desktop PRODUCT need to include multiple desktops (even if NLD
does)? If you don't like a desktop product you go and find another one.
> , then it has to be set as default.
> How else would you decide to set the default? However, if one sets a default,
> one has to re-asses it with every release,
No way. One lives with ones decision, the purpose of a default is to
provide some kind of order and consistency. Gee, why don't I switch
between Lotus Notes and Microsoft Exchange every other weekend? I
really like that is in *that* patch or update....
> so one might have altering
> defaults, which is not really less confusing then having none.
> Is Novell going to re-asses the default on every release?
A sure way to sink the company.
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