Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (3100 mails)

[Allen <slackwarewolf@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Friday 31 March 2006 3:45 am, Harikrishnan T wrote:
> On 3/30/06, Ken Schneider <suse-list2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 12:21 +0530, Harikrishnan T wrote:
> >
> > But let us study the signs of times:
> > >    1.
> > >
> > >    Novell is loosing money. This, in spite of having *the best* Linux
> > >    distro to sell. Their nearest competitor is making money and holding
> >
> > on to
> >
> > >    80% of the market with one of the most lousiest distros.
> > >    2.
> > >
> > >    SUSE co-founders and lead developers are leaving Novell in hordes.
> >
> > One
> >
> > >    of them left yesterday. Some of them have criticized Novell for
> >
> > mishandling
> >
> > >    SUSE.
> > >    3.
> > >
> > >    Novel decides to make Gnome the default desktop. They say it only
> > > for the Enterprise version. Not for SUSE Pro. This astonishes us.
> >
> > Something that
> >
> > >    is good for your Enterprise version, but not good enough for Pro? We
> >
> > always
> >
> > >    thought SUSE Pro and SLES were the same product with different
> >
> > support
> >
> > >    bundles. Now they will have different philosophies too.
> >
> > SLES = Suse Linux Enterprise Server - The server product
> >
> > NLD  = Novell Linux Desttop  - The desktop product, the one that is
> > having Gnome as the default desktop.
>
> Confusion reigns. Some bits from Novell PR Blog
>
> "There has been a lot of debate over the last few days in the media and on
> message boards about what is happening regarding GNOME vs. KDE at Novell.
> Here's the situation. All future enterprise-class Linux product releases,
> including Novell Linux Desktop, SUSE Linux Enterprise Server and Novell
> Open Enterprise Server, will continue to ship with both the GNOME and KDE
> desktop environments. In upcoming versions of Novell enterprise
> applications, the default desktop environment will be GNOME. When customers
> install Novell Linux products, they will be given the option to choose
> either the GNOME or KDE environment during the installation process. If the
> user makes no explicit choice, GNOME will be installed."
>
> See
> http://www.novell.com/prblogs/index.php?title=kde_and_gnome&more=1&c=1&tb=1
>&pb=1
>
>
> SLES = Suse Linux Enterprise Server - The server product - Gnome default.
>
> NLD  = Novell Linux Desttop  - The desktop product - Gnome default.
>
> SUSE Pro/Open SUSE - Desktop product - ??????? Default
>
> Again from Novell PR Blog (same URL)
>
> "This decision has very little impact on either the openSUSE project or
> future versions of SUSE Linux. SUSE Linux will continue to showcase the
> newest open source desktop, development, and server technologies in a
> complete, stabilized operating system. SUSE Linux will continue to deliver
> both the GNOME and the KDE desktop environments along with the latest open
> source packages for those environments."
>
> No mention of the default.

Ummm, you just proved my point for me.... That's what I've been saying for.... 
a week? And let me point it out once more:

When you install it you CHOOSE if you want KDE or Gnome. I don't know many 
installs where someone doesn't pick what they want.

and if you install both.... You'd select one from the dropdown menu before 
logging in. Just like before, the only difference is if you DON'T choose one 
it logs you into GNOME instead. That's the ONLY difference.

> Bye
>
>
> --
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> No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man.
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